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ONCE AGAIN, I WILL START OFF BY SAYING "THESE ARE NOT FROM THE EUOPEAN LINE!" I AM ALOT LIKE GUS, WHEN IT COMES TO MORPHS AND OUTRAGEOUS PRICING. I PRICE BOAS ACCORDING TO THEIR APPEARANCE AND LOCALITY. IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY JUNGLES, THEN DON'T BUY THEM. I ALSO HAVE A LINE OF JUNGLE BRAZILIANS TOO. WOW! WONDER WHAT THEY ARE WORTH?

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In fact I think it's a great looking boa! And I don't question your prices or anything along those lines. I do however question your use of the word 'jungle' to describe it. The first jungle I ever saw was in reptiles magazine several years back, I believe it was a Pete Kahl ad. This boa you posted, although certainly pretty, doesn't look anything like this or any other jungle I've ever seen from that line. Why not come up with a new name for yours rather than piggy back an existing name that has already been chosen for another line? If your jungles are not genetically compatible with existing jungles then why call them jungles? It's not like the word jungle would be considered descriptive.

And I hope you can see my point without becoming argumentative. I'm not trying to be a jerk or single you out from the crowd. Just commenting on a trend that has developed over the last few years in the morph industry... Piggy backing an existing morph name in order to gain instant name recognition for a new line. I see the same thing with pastels, motleys, etc. If a new line is not genetically compatible with an existing line then it should not be given the same name. Unless the name can be considered descriptive, such as circleback laddertail, albino, etc.

I'm certain that half the folks who read this post will agree and the other half will disagree. But it's all good!

>>ONCE AGAIN, I WILL START OFF BY SAYING "THESE ARE NOT FROM THE EUOPEAN LINE!" I AM ALOT LIKE GUS, WHEN IT COMES TO MORPHS AND OUTRAGEOUS PRICING. I PRICE BOAS ACCORDING TO THEIR APPEARANCE AND LOCALITY. IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY JUNGLES, THEN DON'T BUY THEM. I ALSO HAVE A LINE OF JUNGLE BRAZILIANS TOO. WOW! WONDER WHAT THEY ARE WORTH?
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(With "treeboas.com" ) why market them as something you admit that they aren't?...(I don't agree in terms of the "genetic compatability" statement though,because "true Jungle boas" are not a monotypic morphalogical mutation,so it's not possible,realisticlly,to attempt to ascertain genetic compatibility without the convenience of monotypic expression to fall back on when evaluating the results of breeding,theoretically,a polytypic mutation is compatible with anything you'd like to add.)It doesn't do any justice to you,or,your beautiful animals to void their/your credibility so early in their developement(?)frankly,I think they're absolutely gorgeous,but,I wouldn't buy one,and,then try to pass it off as a Motley?...or,a T positive albino??? I have a sway-back plow horse,and,I can trace it's lineage all the way back to the late 1800's....but,it'll never be a thouroughbred racehorse,no matter how much I'd like it to be! because its genetics don't support the contention(comes with a nice wrist watch though,see post below... )I'm not trying to attack you Bill,just trying to shed a little light on something it seems alot of people have had trouble with in the recent past.(if it ain't a "Jungle"...it ain't a "Jungle"...period/exclaimation point)

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"I don't agree in terms of the "genetic compatability" statement though"

I only believe it's important from a marketing ethics standpoint. Is Bill's jungle line genetically 'capable' of producing animals that look exactly like the one in the Reptiles - PK ad I mentioned? Has it EVER produced animals that look like that particular animal? If not then the mutation very likely doesn't occur on the same set of alleles and the jungle name should not apply. As a potential buyer I could be mistaken to believe they are the exact same bloodline based on the name alone. It should be first come first serve when it comes to using non-descriptive names for individual bloodlines. There would be trademark issues if this was the real world. You just can't get a big-mac from burger king.

>>With "treeboas.com" ) why market them as something you admit that they aren't?...(I don't agree in terms of the "genetic compatability" statement though,because "true Jungle boas" are not a monotypic morphalogical mutation,so it's not possible,realisticlly,to attempt to ascertain genetic compatibility without the convenience of monotypic expression to fall back on when evaluating the results of breeding,theoretically,a polytypic mutation is compatible with anything you'd like to add.)It doesn't do any justice to you,or,your beautiful animals to void their/your credibility so early in their developement(?)frankly,I think they're absolutely gorgeous,but,I wouldn't buy one,and,then try to pass it off as a Motley?...or,a T positive albino??? I have a sway-back plow horse,and,I can trace it's lineage all the way back to the late 1800's....but,it'll never be a thouroughbred racehorse,no matter how much I'd like it to be! because its genetics don't support the contention(comes with a nice wrist watch though,see post below... )I'm not trying to attack you Bill,just trying to shed a little light on something it seems alot of people have had trouble with in the recent past.(if it ain't a "Jungle"...it ain't a "Jungle"...period/exclaimation point)

Those boas stand on their own. we aren't downing your boas. just the fact that you want to call them jungles. infact their color is better than any jungle i have seen to date. call them fire boas, super flame boas anything but jungles.
now if you bred a jungle to one of them then you could call the resulting jungle offspring super flame jungle boas or what ever.
i guess my point(if i even have one LOL)is that if it isn't from the proven genetic line of jungles why call it one. a STUNNING line of boas none the less.
good luck with that.
regards Brendan