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It is simple process of elimination through record keeping, inspections and applied 3rd grade math.
For WC possesion limit of 4. Inspection 4 specimens 1 license = no poacher.
For CB. 2 males 2 females (WC already inspected and breeeding permit issued) inspection 2 clutches of eggs at 5 each inspection 10 eggs hatch 10 babies sold 10 reciepts issued inspection = no poacher; and here's where just a little work is required: 2 pet stores are in possesion of 30 specimens, all with reciepts. 10 reciepts were written by Jon Doe. Records are reviewed and John Doe was inspected and did in fact produce 10 specimens. 20 reciepts were written by Joe Blow. Records were checked and Joe Blow only produced 10 specimens. Joe Blow is the poacher, his permit is revoked, he is fined, and his snakes are confiscated.
A permit system can work just fine so long as there are inpections after capture, egg laying, hatching and sale. And so long a anyone selling or possesing can be inpected. The only exceptions are those who are completely underground and catching their own specimens and they must be captured in the field without a license.

For some reason the plus signs I wrote did not show up. So here is the same post edited, I hope it's clearer.

>>It is simple process of elimination through record keeping, inspections and applied 3rd grade math.
>>For WC possesion limit of 4. Inspection plus 4 specimens plus 1 license = no poacher.
For CB. 2 males plus 2 females (WC already inspected and breeeding permit issued) plus inspection, 2 clutches of eggs at 5 each plus inspection, 10 eggs hatch plus inspection, 10 babies sold and 10 reciepts issued plus inspection = no poacher.
>>Here's where just a little work is required: 2 pet stores are in possesion of 30 specimens, all with reciepts. 10 reciepts were written by Jon Doe. Records are reviewed and John Doe was inspected and did in fact produce 10 specimens. 20 reciepts were written by Joe Blow. Records were checked and Joe Blow only produced 10 specimens. Joe Blow is the poacher, his permit is revoked, he is fined, and his snakes are confiscated.
>>A permit system can work just fine so long as there are inspections after capture, egg laying, hatching and sale. And so long a anyone selling or possesing can be inspected. The only exceptions are those who are completely underground and catching their own specimens and they must be captured in the field without a license.

Its good in theory, but who is going to pay for it. They come into my store and see that I have 30 babies. I show them recipts now they have to go to whomever I bought them from and check their records. Yes, it can be done but its usually so costly that they make it easier on themselves and just ban everything.

Also, your method would require photographic evidence of the babies hatching otherwise it would be easy to switch things up. Have a clutch of 15 normal corn snake eggs. Dump the baby corns when they hatch and substitute them with some WC babies of a more valuable nature.

Still, I like the idea that you are thinking about it. That's what it will take to get some sort of recognition for CB.

Steve Schindler

This is pretty much the system they have in MD, except that you are only allowed 4 WC individuals.

Katrina

This is basicly the system in CA except no inspections are allowed for non-commercial possesors. The system is paid for by the commercial permit fees. To possess you only need a fishing license. If they changed it to a special stamp there would be more money to inspect possesers. If they could inspect possesers and it was a nationwide system there would be nowhere to dump babies in excess of those produced because to even possess one you could be inspected.