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Keeping with the AFT questions LOL, i have a few...

Is it the same for AFT's as it is for leos? I mean if i get a banded female and stripe male what would the babies be like? Also if i get an amelistic (?) and a normal stripe again what would the babies turn out like. Are there any good sites that go into detail about AFT's? I've looked but i don't see any with the same type of info as there are about leos.

My plan for the April show is to get a few AFT's (along with some more leos hehehe).

Thanks for the help
Red
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

As I recall, it's hard to find great sites on fat tails but if you have a banded and a striped, you will get some of both. Which is great, because I have a banded male and a striped female (okay well it's not MY female exactly but she will be mated with my baded male and I'll be able to convince her mommy to let me keep a striped baby I'm sure!) I also believe that the albino and a normal would produce some of each, and the normals are hets. So for the most part it's very very similar to leos. But there are like a hundred times as many good leo sites as there are for the fat tails. This breeding project has just kinda started up out of the blue for me and a girl I work with. As long as I've known her, she's wanted to breed fat tails. So I bought one myself, and for her birthday everyone at work pitched in and bought her the other one at the store. The downside, they were both female. So that meant we had to find us a man! And we did! I bought him yesterday, and he was a great price, in great health, and captive born! So now we're waiting to order the incubator, and my girl and my boy will go at it first. Then we'll work on him and his OTHER lady. Hee hee. Hope this helped! Sorry for the rambling story! I'm bored and there are no new posts!!
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-Kristen

0.5 Leopard Gecko (Buttercup, Beaker, Beauty, Blaze, and Bubbles)
1.1 Fat Tail Gecko (Bell and her new boyfriend Bowser!)
0.1 Deformed Leopard Gecko (Gimpy)

Thankyou that helps alot. I had planned on buying one female of each: banded, stripe and amelistic and then just one male of any morph. Your input is wonderful. This way i can have hatchlings of a few of each without having to have a pair of banded, stripe etc.

Thansk again
Red
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

Click on the link listed below and follow this set of steps and see if this helps you at all...

Number of abnormal traits: select 2, then hit "Build Query Form"

For Gene #1 type in Amel, for Gene #2 type in Stripe....now under the male and female select the appropriate boxes...i.e. homo, het or wt (normal)

On the male under Gene #1 assume the male is your homo for Amel, check the box homo...under Gene #2 ~Stripe check the WT box as he is not het for Stripe.

On the female under Gene #2 assume she is your homo for Stripe, check the box homo...under Gene #1 ~ Amel check the WT box as she is not het for Amel.

Your results should be:

Homozygous amel (male)
x
Homozygous Stripe (female)
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100% Normal Het. amel, Het. Stripe

So according to that Genetics calculator I do not think you would get some of each but rather simply be making your F1 generations het for both amel & stripe...if you breed these you will get some amel, some stripe and some amel stripe, like this:

Het. amel, Het. Stripe,
x
Het. amel, Het. Stripe,
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6.25% WT
12.5% Het. Stripe,
6.25% Homozygous Stripe,
12.5% Het. amel,
25% Het. amel, Het. Stripe,
12.5% Het. amel, Homozygous Stripe,
6.25% Homozygous amel,
12.5% Homozygous amel, Het. Stripe,
6.25% Homozygous amel, Homozygous Stripe

Not sure if the AFT genetics or gecko genetics in general behave in the same way this calculator works but I would think it applies...hope this helps and if I got it all wrong someone please speak up and correct me as I too am working on a breeding project and have been using this site to help me choose what my colony of animals should be to get what I desire in the F1 generation.

Thanks,

Lee
Genetics Wizard

If that is true, then I guess I have just been misinformed! Well I'll find out when I breed my striped in with my banded male!
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-Kristen

0.5 Leopard Gecko (Buttercup, Beaker, Beauty, Blaze, and Bubbles)
1.1 Fat Tail Gecko (Bell and her new boyfriend Bowser!)
0.1 Deformed Leopard Gecko (Gimpy)

Proud owner and operator of a Powerbook G4! Why use windows, when I can use Panther? It even sounds better.

I guess i should have asked what exactly does a normal fattail look like hehehe, banded? That would mean the stripes are a trait that was breed for not actually something they would come with from the wild right?

Thankyou for your information and the link, very interesting. I'll just have to get myself a group and start from there. Don't even know if i'll get them all this year but i'm hoping to

Red
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

Both striped and banded exist in the wild...I'm not sure what good that does. But both traits exist in wc afts.
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-Kristen

0.5 Leopard Gecko (Buttercup, Beaker, Beauty, Blaze, and Bubbles)
1.1 Fat Tail Gecko (Bell and her new boyfriend Bowser!)
0.1 Deformed Leopard Gecko (Gimpy)

Proud owner and operator of a Powerbook G4! Why use windows, when I can use Panther? It even sounds better.

OK cool, so if you take a stripe and a banded, breed them you'd come out with a mix of both? I guess it really doesnt' matter as i'm not prepared to breed. I just want a female of each (banded, stripe and Amel).

Thanks for the info though. I wish there was a book just on AFT's I'm still waiting for the Crested gecko manual.....its still not up here aparently

Red

>>Both striped and banded exist in the wild...I'm not sure what good that does. But both traits exist in wc afts.
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>>-Kristen
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>>0.5 Leopard Gecko (Buttercup, Beaker, Beauty, Blaze, and Bubbles)
>>1.1 Fat Tail Gecko (Bell and her new boyfriend Bowser!)
>>0.1 Deformed Leopard Gecko (Gimpy)
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>>Proud owner and operator of a Powerbook G4! Why use windows, when I can use Panther? It even sounds better.
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)