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I know that this should be fairly easy, but for some reason I am having trouble sexing mine. The one I started out with, I am fairly sure is a male. He has a V though the wax is not really pertruding out. He does however frequently do the Tok-ay call sitting on his tree. The one I obtained recently, has a V as well though it does not seem as long. The wax on this one is pertruding though I have yet to see it do any kind of call. Now at first I thought that they were 2 males and the one I obtained was improperly sexed, but I have yet to see fighting. Infact, they sit and hide in the same log and even sit RIGHT next to each other during the day. Are there any other signs I can go by? I can get a pic of the male since I can hold him but the female is not at all tame and I would rather not disturb her. It is too hard to get a good pic through the glass and if I shine too much light she just runs. Any help appreciated, sorry for the long post.

If you see waxy substance, the animal is definitely a male. Only males have this. This is actually the only way that I could tell the difference between my male and female pair. And I'm positive that they are a 1.1 because I caught them "in the act" a few weeks ago. Some males produce more wax than others though, so run your fingertip over the first "male's" pores - I bet you will feel a slight roughness there - given that he is an adult.
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?.?.? Leopard Geckos (eggs incubating)
1.1.1 Rhacodactylus ciliatus
2.5 Paroedura picta(eggsincubating)
1.1 Paroedura picta (Xanthic/Amel)
1.1 Paroedura bastardi(eggs incubating)
1.1 Paroedura androyensis
1.1 Hemitheconyx caudicinctus
1.1 Cyrtodactylus irianjayensis
1.1 Gekko gecko
1.1 Pachydactylus turneri
1.1 Uroplatus henkeli
0.0.1 Hemidactylus turcicus turcicus
1.2 Teratolepis fasciata

Snakes
1.0 Blizzard Corn
1.0 Christmas corn
1.2 Reverse Okeetee corn (1 tang)
1.0 Ball Python

What really throws me off is the fact that even IF they are both males why are they not fighting? Its not even the case that they live on opposite ends of the cage or stay away from each other, they infact share the same tree and often sit right next to each other. And am I right to say that only males make the machinegun noise followed by the Tok-ay call?

That happens here and then.
Often fathers do tolerate sons or males which grow up together do tolerate each other.
Sometimes there seems to be more.
For may years I had to large adult males which always stayed close to each other. They showed ritualized behaviour when trying to get to a favourite place occupied by the other male. They alternated in guarding eggs and babies and never showed any agression.
They showed much more bonding to each other than to any of the females coinhabiting their tank.
When one of these died, the other male began barking as loud and frequently as a male whose mate was gone.
Any other newly introduced males were rapidly and vigorously attacked. hence sinsce a few years this specimen only lives together with two females.
Tokays are individuals!

Hope that helps

Ingo

I raised baby males to 8-9 months in the same tank and they do the same things your describing, so it is possible just unusual. Not all males call out alot especially if their new. Sexing can be decieving until they get to a certain age also.
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My posts and replies are my experiences only
1.2.15 Tokays
1.4.10 Leos(13 albino)
1.2.0 AFT's(amel male)
0.2.0 Stenodactylus Petrii(Dune Geckos)

Wow this is quite interesting. So if this new one is a male due to the waxy substance, and the other one I presume a male because of the call, what do you think would be a good course of action? I can return the new male back to the shop I got him from if you feel that this would overall be better. I wanted to get a mate for mine because he frequently called out and seemed lonely, though I'm not sure this is the type of mate I had in mind lol. In any case, ingo or dakman if you have any females about 8" long I could use one if I do return the new male. Thanks again..

hard call without being able to see pics of both. if both male and they end up getting along as they get older, that wont help produce offspring for you. how old/big is the one in question, could be still hard to sex 100%. Sorry cant help with med. sized female, just sold and shipped all my juvies except one 2 month old this week.
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My posts and replies are my experiences only
1.2.15 Tokays
1.4.10 Leos(13 albino)
1.2.0 AFT's(amel male)
0.2.0 Stenodactylus Petrii(Dune Geckos)

With everyone talking about sexing they're tokay. I decided to check to make sure i had a male & female.

I got them at seperate times. So i couldn't compare them. When i introduced them i just put the male in the enclosure did even think to check.

So, yesterday i pull all the branches out and set out to catch them, to check their sex.

Caught the male, holding him, staring at going i think he a male, well that's were my stupidity kicks in an i loosen my grip alittle. well he wiggles forward whips his head to the side an bites my finger.

i'm totally shocked so i let going a him, he lets go of me, hits floor and bolts across the floor and under the door into the hall and is heading for the bathroom.

It had to look really funny to my housemate to see a gecko come shooting from under the door and me running out bleeding all over the place from this bite.

I'm sitting on the floor, with him between me and the wall. My housemate goes to get me a container to place over the gecko as my housemate comes back in to the hall, the male wiggle between my legs and into my cupped hand that was trying to keep him from get past me. No joke.

So in the end. I do have a male & female. Which is what i orginally thought, but with everyone talking about sexing, i was worried that i missexed them.

Israel

Thats funny except for the getting bit part. I found the best way to recapture without getting bit is to use a towel and drap it over the Tokay, then you can move your hands around him and pick it up, just keep its head covered so it can't see.
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My posts and replies are my experiences only
1.2.15 Tokays
1.4.10 Leos(13 albino)
1.2.0 AFT's(amel male)
0.2.0 Stenodactylus Petrii(Dune Geckos)

Yeah the towel method works very well. The big one in question is roughly 8-10" while the smaller one is maybe an inch smaller at most. I'll try to get pics of the handleable one tomorrow.