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Super Stripe Borneo Post Ovulation

marksherps Feb 19, 2004 10:51 PM

She just had her post ovulation shed a few days ago. The male that bred her is the same color phase. This pic shows her true colors pretty well! Thanks

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Mark Kennedy Reptiles

Replies (13)

greenman38 Feb 19, 2004 11:11 PM

Congratulations! Very nice Borneo. Wish you the best this year with her. She is really sharp looking. Hope you have some of the same great looking babies that VPI did. Always love seeing a nice borneo. Best of Luck...... Thanks for sharing.

marksherps Feb 19, 2004 11:21 PM

Thanks I appreciate that! I'm really anxious to see what hatches out. Tracy hatched out a few weird looking babies from her pair last year so I don't know what we'll get.
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Rich_Crowley Feb 20, 2004 08:15 AM

Mark, you call that a super-stripe and I don't see that in its appearance. Can you explain?

marksherps Feb 20, 2004 10:42 AM

Hi Rich, here is the same one showing the stripe down its back. Tracy proved this appearance to be co-dominant. She bred a pair together last year and hatched out a few really odd babies that may actually be the "super". If you haven't seen them I'd be happy to email them to you.

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ballcrew777 Feb 20, 2004 03:59 PM

Hi Mark,
I have seen some of Tracys babies that are 100% striped..
they are pretty incredible looking snakes..are you saying that yours are from her adults and that the pair you have doesnt show a great degree of striping?
I have striped borneos that come from striped parents and they are not in the same league price wise..I have wondered what determines them to be so expensive..I have 100% striped borneos also..I havent seen Tracys striped borneo adults so I dont have anything to compare them to ..I guess I am babbling...can you help a brother out?
Michael

marksherps Feb 20, 2004 05:11 PM

Hi Michael, super stripe is the name Tracy gave this particular bloodline of borneos. I have no idea if the parents of this one are fully striped. I have a sibling of the one pictured that is around 90% striped. Obviously, there are both pattern and color
differences. The colors of these just seem to get better with age. Hopefully Tracy will see this thread and comment. Thanks!
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Tracy Barker Feb 21, 2004 11:53 AM

Here is the info on the "super stripe" Borneo lineage. It started from two sibling Borneos that were 100% striped. I got these as hatchlings maybe 8-10 years ago now. I raised them and bred the male to the female and they produced striped animals and what I called the "super stripe" an orange sided unreal looking snake (male). I identified this as a super and since then have produced more like it. They are patternless on the neck and sides and have a stripe down the back. I bred the "super stripe" male back to the mom and produced perfect stripes (thick and pinstripe thin) as well as an almost patternless animal. Basically I really don't know what is going on because the pattern changes in each generation and doesn't seem to be static like in ball pythons.

I have only sold two animals. One to a guy in Florida and one to a guy in Europe these were perfect striped males. I have currently on loan 1.2 to MarksHerps and 1.1 to Greenman 38 and 1.0 to Bloodline. Bloodline has produced the only animals outside of VPI, a cross of a stripe male to his "ghost" female. Marksherps clutch will be the second clutch produced by these animals. Hopefully Greenman 38 will be successful producing them this year too.

There are stripes and there are stripes. The value in these animals is the ten years of breeding them and showing what they produce. The fact that they produce 100% stripe animals when paired with any light normal colored snake so far also makes them very valuable. You only need one snake to go very far with this snake. I've gotten so many crazy looking snakes that it has paralyzed me from selling them because each animal has the potential to produce something new! I have babies I haven't even shown yet that have only DOTS down the back!!

I am not saying that other striped snakes don't have as high a value, but these snakes are very identifiable in terms of this bloodline. All of the animals have descended from the original pair of which we have had a genetic profile done from their shed skins. Any shed skin will easily identify any animals directly descended from this lineage.

This year Bloodline is crossing the stripe to a marble-this will be very interesting!

Tracy

greenman38 Feb 21, 2004 01:26 PM

Tracy, you have me mixed up with someone else on here. You stated that you currently have breeder loans with me and that is not the case. We had a breeder loan deal ( kind of ) last year but that all ended and you got all your animals back. You did get 18 babies out of my adult female ( BabyJane )in 1999 and then I think it was 6 more out of her in 2001, so we have some of the same stock. I did get 4 babies out of you on our breeder loan this last year, but I thought that was a new line. I am rambling on here, just wanted to set the record straight that I do not have any animals of yours on loan at the present. I am sure you mixed my name up with someone else, it happens Your babies posted on here are so nice, you should be very proud! Best of luck with all your great animals!!! ......... Jody

greenman38 Feb 21, 2004 01:47 PM

Tracy
Since I am not sure what bloodline you are talking about as far as producing, I have produced a lot of the stripe borneos over the last few years out of my adults (not VPI loaners). Maybe you are talking about the super blonde stripes ( the four babies that I got from our breeder loan that we had this last year)? If that is what you are talking about then no I have not bred the super blonde borneos that I got out of our breeder loan as of yet ( lol, they are only babies so no chance that I could produce them this year). The rest of the stripes I have, have produced over and over, and I even sent you and Dave pictures of them that I called the "Koi Collection", I still have the emails if you need to see them again. Anyway, like I said I am sure you must be talking about someone else, but just in case I wanted to clear this up, no biggie Jody

marksherps Feb 20, 2004 07:09 PM

This is one of the weird babies Tracy hatched last year from breeding a pair of super stripes together. Thanks

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marksherps Feb 20, 2004 07:25 PM

here's another one

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ballcrew777 Feb 20, 2004 09:21 PM

UNREAL...
so thats what your hoping for...pics say it all....
thanks Mark..
Michael

ernie Apr 01, 2004 12:27 AM

holy crap. just pretend you are selling them, how much?

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