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Is anyone out there working with locale Corns? I have been breeding Delaware stock for many years myself. I'm particularly interested in corresponding with people working with Corns from Kentucky, Missisippi, Tennessee, Virginia, and Alabama.

Bart Bruno

IMHO, I don't think you'll have much luck finding many people on this forum that have interest in locality corns. I am interested in NJ local corns but no one breeds them and they can not be collected from the wild. If you have a Delaware line, all I can say is hold onto it FOREVER since it won't be long before all the overdevelopment in NJ runs down into Delaware and corns become virtually extinct from that isolated population (if it hasn't happend already). I would venture to guess that you would have better luck on the 'other' corn snake website OR by going to herp shows since despite everyone and their mothers having websites these days, some still don't. For instance, Lee Abbott supposedly has beautiful okeetee corns but unless you live near him or go to a herp show down south, you'd never know.

Another thought, you might want to try outcrossing your line with some morphs to see if there are any interesting variations in pattern or color. You could simply maintain two lines, one pure and one outcrossed. I don't know how it would work out but I am into locale corns but I think its extremely rare to find anyone with a serious locale breeding group that interested traced back to some obscure stock.
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A number of people have already contacted me both publicly and privately. I'm really not surprised.

I am happy for you that you have received such great responses. I have seen others post inquiries about this in the past and have witnessed little interest or replies. I'm sure there are people out there with heavy interest in locality corns, which is great. I just wasn't sure if they were on this site or not.lol.

Out of all snakes species, I'm sure cb E. guttata are the furthest removed from wild populations, which is a shame.

I hope that someone, somewhere comes out of the woodwork that had collected, kept, or bred corn lines from the NJ area before laws were implemented. Otherwise, I feel pretty confident that the gene pool from that isolated population will be lost forever due to extinction in the area. But who knows. If you hear of anyone with legal and legit lines from that area, let me know..but I tend to think its highly doubtful.

Either way, I love the idea behind locale corns and wish more were interested in them....sorry if my skepticism in the earlier post gave a different impression.
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You have to realize, just because locale people don't post a lot, doesn't mean we don't read the posts. Sometimes, an occasional post is all that's needed. Also, I disagree with your view of captive Corn groups being far removed from the wild. Those that are sincere about locales tend to do it right, it's always been that way.

>>Is anyone out there working with locale Corns? I have been breeding Delaware stock for many years myself. I'm particularly interested in corresponding with people working with Corns from Kentucky, Missisippi, Tennessee, Virginia, and Alabama.
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>>Bart Bruno

I live in Tennessee and I am going to do my best to get a pair of local corns to start a breeding project. But, depending on what I can get it could be anywhewre from next season to two seasons from now before I could start breeding.
here is my e-mail if you would like to hold onto it and check back on occaision.
draybar@comcast.net
Jimmy

I work with KY locality corns. Its good to hear that there are still a few of us out there that find locality corns interesting.

Your KY corn looks just like the adult wild corns I have seen here in Southeast Tennessee.
I am on a mission to get at least a pair of locals.
I hope to maintain a nice "pure" Southeast Tennessee line.
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