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how big of a cage would i need to buy a second mali uro. Currently i have one male mali uro in a 50 gallon tank, with millet seed as his ground stuff. Also since if i buy a male they will kill eachother, will the new female i buy breed with my male , just if its in the cage? I dont want to have a family of malis just two. thanks

I don't know about the cage size but if you put a female with a male they will breed no question about it. You don't have to incubate the eggs and hatch them, you can just put them in the freezer for 30 - 40 min and then throw them out if you don't want babies.
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thanks, but r u sure they will breed if i do nothing? Also in his cage he has two lamps for basking, he has one cave above the milltet for him to hide in, and in one part i have a pvc plubing pipe that leads in to a tupperware contaniar thats under the millit to simulate a burrow. Do i need to add something, change something or is everything just fine?

P.S. Should i add plants, he currently has none

Hey,

I personally think that you shouldn't just "put them in the freezer for 30-40 minutes and then through them out if you don't want babies." If you don't want babies DON'T BREED THEM. Don't take the life of innocent uros!

They will breed no matter what you do or do not do. But he has a point if your not going to hatch the babys don't get a breeding pair.
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I am going do disagree with you 100%. They are very hard to breed, and still today breeders are having great difficlty breeding them, and that is what they do for a living. So no if you put a male with a female they will most likely not breed. If you dont want to breed them then dont put them through brumation. I am not saying they wont breed, i am saying that they will most likely not breed. Even if they do breed, just take the eggs to a local petstore or someplace where some1 would like to hatch them dont kill them in a freezer. I am sorry, but who ever said "if you put a male with a female they will definatly breed" is misinformed. I think your name is Dedalus or something, but i have a question for you did you ever breed them? If so that would some what justify your statement. I know this is a forum but dont give people wrong info. You think male female=babies, but it is not nearly that simple. Also, dont give out info if you dont know it. If you look on any care sheets or breeding sheets they all say it is diffult or nearly impossible to breed uromastyx. So if you read all of the care sheets why would you tell people that they would definatly breed. I know i am comeing hard on your, but common if you did the slightest bit of research, Dedalus, you would know it is hard to breed them. Seriously why do you think there are so many WC and barely any CB if they are "so" easy to breed?

In my opinion get the male and female, they will most likely not breed. If they do then like i said just give he eggs away to some1 who would want to incubate them, dont put them in the freezer. If no one will take them, then maybe you would like to try to incubate them, they are very difficult to incubate and will most likely not make it, but trying to incubate them is a lot better than putting them in a freezer.

Also, Dedalus i want you to show me where you read it was "so" easy to breed them. Because i am pretty sure it doesn't say that anywhere
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I never said they were easy to breed. I just said that they will breed. They have a 15 year plus lifespan so eventually he will have eggs. I never said it would happen in 30 seconds like it does with beardies. The pair may end up breeding in 4 or 5 years and then hes still stuck with eggs. I never said anything about them being easy to breed, I just said they would breed.
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But even with time most of them dont breed. Zoo's in Europe have uros that live long healthy lives, but most of them rarely breed. We are just now starting to understand how to breed them. Just because you have them for a long time doesn't mean they will breed. You have to make it so their enviorment is correct for breeding. Yes, they might breed with time, but if you dont do anything to provoke breeding it most likely wont happen. And i didn't mean by them being hard to breed that it takes time for them to breed, i meant it is hard to breed them given any amount of time, and some individuals just wont.

Again, i think it would be fine to house the male with the female, if you dont brumate them then they will most likely not breed, but some uros will breed even without brumation. What i am trying to say is this species is very difficult to breed and if you want to house a male with a female and have them not breed this is one of the species you might get away with it. And even if they do breed, you can just give the eggs away or try to incubate them, and then sell them.
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Mike
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I have no experience with breeding anything, and when I bought my male, Doug Dix told me that if I didn't cool them for the winter, they wouldn't breed.

I didn't cool them (this is their first winter with me) and a couple weeks ago, I caught him TRYING to mate with her. She was having none of it, but they were trying.

So, be careful, is all I'm saying. If you do end up with a accidentally gravid female, there are problems with egg binding and calcium deficiency - or so I read - especially if you aren't prepared to provide the correct laying conditions since you don't want the eggs.
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