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a few days ago, a friend of mine gave me a misterious snake... saying that it was a "false Rattlesnake"... Indeed, you hear the rattlesnake's sound... but there's nothing at the end of its tale.... can anyone inform me about our mysterious fellow?

Post a pic so it can be ID'd. Alot of snakes will "rattle" or vibrate their tails when nervous or spooked. Almost all of mine do it from time to time, especially during feeding.

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1.0 Corn snake
1.0 Black rat snake
1.0 Albino Black rat snake
1.0 Everglades rat snake
0.1 Yellow rat snake
1.1 California king snake
1.0 Prairie king snake
0.1 Black king snake

Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

Well... a photo may take some time...so... in the mean time... as far as i've seen, it has cat like eyes, so, i think, it can only be a harmless "Pythonish" snake... or a viper... its head is a lil' bit less than 1 inch, triangled and bigger on the back, , body around 25 in, soft scales and a beige tone with reddish romboid designs in all the body. any idea?

Question: if a snake doesn't show any sign of fangs, does it mean that its non venomous?

Of hand I would say your friend presented you with a red rat snake (sometimes mistakenly called a red "rattler". Was the belly whitish with black partial to complete square blotches?

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

thanks, but i guess this is not the case... it doesn't have those markings, and the pupil is long and vertical, not circular... thanks anyway =)

Do you know where the snake is from?

how does it eat mice?

If it is native to the U.S., then the only thing that comes to mind would be the lyre snake or the night snake. Mind you, that these 2 snakes are mildly venomous. Take a look at the two links and see if this is your snake.

Was it wild caught or captive bred? Do you know where it came from if wild caught?

Hope this helps

http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/t.b.lyrophanes.html

http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/h.t.deserticola.html
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1.0 Corn snake
1.0 Black rat snake
1.0 Albino Black rat snake
1.0 Everglades rat snake
0.1 Yellow rat snake
1.1 California king snake
1.0 Prairie king snake
0.1 Black king snake

Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

That's the one! the lyra snake! thanks a lot! =D.... you've just saved mi bloodstream from it's poison he he thaaaank uuu!!!!!