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Atelopus flavescens

Frogworks Feb 23, 2004 05:24 PM

Ok, so my brain has been picked by Ben, sorry for the late response. The book is referring to a time when Atelopus varius and A. flavescens were still commonly imported from their native countries, neither of which still export them and in fact, A. varius in Costa Rica is completely extinct except one population. The pictures you see in Wall's books of A. varius may very well be extinct.

While both of these species were imported in mass, they suffered much like the imported pumilio, histrionicus, and lehmanni of the dart frog world suffered, in that their breeding was not understood enough to breed them and keep captive populations going, for the few that survived the importation to begin with (out of a group of 8 A. spumarius males, only 3 lived over a year for me). Thus they fell out of the hobby. As far as I know, the only Atelopus currently in the hobby is A. spumarius due to recent importation, but breeding is still going to be uncommon due to so few knowing what it takes and can actually provide it, as well as the fact that their are so few females imported (1 in 60 red eye treefrogs imported are female, this ratio might be even larger for atelopus).

The glowing reference may be due to the fact that flavescens are almost flourescent orange, and under some lights may glow like a highlighter. I've never seen any of these in person.

If you haven't guessed, I work with A. spumarius and Atelopus are sort of a passion for me. I'm also working on getting a large breeding group together, and am looking for more females (they are twice the size of adult calling males) as well as a couple more males. Please let me know if you can help with that. My goal of the project is evetualy to not only get general caresheets out on at least A. spumarius, but also their breeding and raising of the young so these bold little gems won't fade out like their cousins.

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Homer1 Feb 24, 2004 09:43 AM

I'm not exactly sure where this post fits in with reference to books, but it definitely caught my interest to find out about this frog . . . uh, toad. I had seen references to the Genus Atelopus before in dart circles, but had never been interested enough to look into what they were.

Now that I've seen pics and checked out their classification, (which is in the family of true toads), I'm curious as to why so many PDF'ers have a great interest in them. Are they of approximately the same size and live in similar environs? I'm just curious, as I am definitely a toad lover, having "pet toads" growing up, whether in terraria or ones I routinely fed outside the house. Toads were definitely my first love in the amphibian world (and those mysterious and elusive salamanders we used to "hunt" in the springs and bogs).

Best of luck with breeding these, and keep us posted. Why is there such a large number of males to females? Are they hunted at night and found by their calling? Or does it have to do with the actual m/f ratio in the wild (which I find unlikely)?

Lots of questions and a wish of good luck.
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Homer W. Faucett III, esq.
Purveyor of Trivialities and Fine Nonsense

eggfeederz Feb 26, 2004 07:47 AM

Hmmm...... why do dart frog hobbyists like atelopus too? I'd say because of similarities to the darts themselves. Size is similar, prey items similar. They share habitat with darts in many places. They also can be very colorful, like darts. I have even seen some really striking spumarius, even though they are mostly brown. I have a group I am working with, and I actually sometimes watch them more than the darts. They have a very cool looking locomotion to them. I don't think its too much of a stretch to see a dart frog person working with atelopus.

Homer1 Feb 26, 2004 06:18 PM

Sounds reasonable. I was just curious, as I have seen the genera name pop up quite a bit. I just didn't (and still don't) know much about them, other than seeing a few pics here and there.
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Homer W. Faucett III, esq.
Purveyor of Trivialities and Fine Nonsense

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