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If peta has there way then what makes us any different from a communist country ? What RedQuake wrote is the best idea that I have heard. Make the coustomer aware of the responsibilitys and the proper housing and if not proper like petco then dont buy! Another thing, there are fines givin out everyday for lesser reasons so hit them in there precious pocket book and they will change there ways quicker than you would think. The prices of the reptiles would probibly go up I would rather pay more for a healthy reptile than less for a sick one.

Id truly say that i would have to agree with that because the vet bills would be higher than what a healthy one would cost.
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Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!

I feel better knowing people agree. One thing that could be done to really affect the stores is to promote breeders alot more. It took me forever to find some in my area. Why not advertize them a bit more and make shows a big deal. I have found that breeders like to know whats going on with the geckos you bought. They are there to help out and give advice. Its great. If stores were more like that it would benefit the customer more and increase sales. And i agree with you, i would rather pay more money for a healthy animal than get a cheap sick one....vet bills are nasty and the money i save there can go towards a larger tank, more hides etc.

Red

>>If peta has there way then what makes us any different from a communist country ? What RedQuake wrote is the best idea that I have heard. Make the coustomer aware of the responsibilitys and the proper housing and if not proper like petco then dont buy! Another thing, there are fines givin out everyday for lesser reasons so hit them in there precious pocket book and they will change there ways quicker than you would think. The prices of the reptiles would probibly go up I would rather pay more for a healthy reptile than less for a sick one.
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

If you figure out a way to transport a leo to a school , please let me know . I have a female tangerine I bought from a boy that is deformed from MBD . She would show the effects of not being responseable . And let me know your Idea for booklets to hand out to the students.
Brian

Its on my list of things to do hehehe. Right now i'm just trying to get things set up for my move to another room and get this one completely for the geckos. I have a ton of things to do, i almost feel overwelmed. I want to move my crested geckos to new cages and get the gecko unit up against another wall but i can't do that until my brother moves upstairs and his room is available. Man this stuff just sucks. I want to build the new crested gecko tanks too so i've got a very long list...i do think that something light and portable is best, with maybe a section (slot) at the bottom for a heat pack. If i could find some one sided glass so that the kids could see in but the gecko couldn't see out i think that would be cool

I'll let ya know though. Its fresh in my mind so i'll be drawing out designs so i don't lose it hehehe

Red

>>If you figure out a way to transport a leo to a school , please let me know . I have a female tangerine I bought from a boy that is deformed from MBD . She would show the effects of not being responseable . And let me know your Idea for booklets to hand out to the students.
>> Brian
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

LOL Thank You

I just use rubbermaid "Showoffs"... they're clear and even have a handle. You can solder or drill airholes. I also sewed a heatpad cozy out of remmnant fabric. This is just what I use for taking people to the vet, but it's very handy. I'd be careful about heating anything you take outside in the summer though, too much heat is worse than too little as far as long term health goes.
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Eryx - All the fun of a boa in a convient pocket size!

When I take any of my girls out and about (which I do often) I use one of those microwavable heating pads. Okay let me see if I can explain it more. We bought it at Bath and Body works (so this one is all nice, lol and now I use it for leo transport) and it's fabric with some type of "stuff" inside. You put it in the microwave for a few minutes (1-2) and it warms up. It's supposed to wrap around your neck and ease sore muscles (I'll post a pic too) but I put it inside of one of those critter keepers, the plastic things with small vents on the lid. And I cover the top of the critter keeper with a cotton shirt. So air can come in, but for the most part the container stays nice and cozy warm. It's a lot less complicated that I just tried to explain it. Now as far as traveling far distances, you would just have to find a microwave to reheat something like that once it started to get cold. But anything that is similar to what I'm talking about works great. It isn't too hot to hurt them, but it keeps them warm, and with the shirt on top, it more or less insulates the container to keep a pretty constant temperature for a little while. Hope that made sense!
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-Kristen

0.6 Leopard Gecko (Buttercup, Beaker, Beauty, Blaze, Bubbles, Blinkers, and Squiggles {yeah I broke with the B's, but her head has black squiggles on it!!!})
1.1 Fat Tail Gecko (Bell and Bowser!)
0.1 Deformed Leopard Gecko (Gimpy)

Proud owner and operator of a Powerbook G4! Why use windows, when I can use Panther? It even sounds better.

they dont have as meny laws bout animal cruelty twards reptiles. i also agree with redquake.
nevin
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1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-sunshine&chaos
1.1 leopard geckos-killer&sallean
1 blizzerd lizzard-grim
0.2.0 amazon tree boas-sweetness&?
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-?
0.1.0 bearded dragon-?
1.0.0 uromastyx-chubby
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont ever get drunk with a hoodie on, eventually ur ganna think someone is behind you"

Is a reptile a animal ? Maybe some average joes should remind them of that .

Yes a reptile is in the animal kingdom.
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Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
Leopard Geckos ROCK!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-------------------------------~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!
Leopard Geckos ROCK!!!

SPCA and all organations needs to be reminded , I doint know how much good it would do , but enough complants they cant over look it . Or maybe they can ?

Crickets and feeder mice (and feeder lizards) are all animals too. People with animals who eat other animals need to be careful how many rights animals get. Or we'll all be keeping iguanas and uromastyx.
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Eryx - All the fun of a boa in a convient pocket size!

Some plants have nervous system like reactions; one plant species actually could communicate when in danger, so if all animals have rights and are supposed to be free, plants might not be too far behind

1. We need more laws, such as testing products for animals before release, this should be obvious by sand products and HOT ROCKS, which can kill and seriously injure.

2. Pet stores need to be inspected regularly and customers who lie about care or don't care for store animals should be fined or fired.

3. All animals should have the same rights, regardless if it is cute or fluffy. And animal police officers who are biased against reptiles should not be employed.

4. Healthy animals should not be euthenized because of behavior issues people don't want to deal with (I see this on animal cops frequently and it disgusts me)

5. When people sue for loss of non domestic animals due to products, they should be paid for pain and suffering and not just faulty objects.

6. PETA needs to calm the hell down

I agree your list is very good. When i said that all life has the right to live and thrive i was talking not only about reptiles and the issue of captive keeping but also of the environment. Those who are extremists in regard to pets need to focus their attention on the environment and the damage being done there, the extinction of species etc. Pet keeping is not a problem as long as proper education is done and the idea that reptiles are just as important as a cat and dog is realized.

Red

>>1. We need more laws, such as testing products for animals before release, this should be obvious by sand products and HOT ROCKS, which can kill and seriously injure.
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>>2. Pet stores need to be inspected regularly and customers who lie about care or don't care for store animals should be fined or fired.
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>>3. All animals should have the same rights, regardless if it is cute or fluffy. And animal police officers who are biased against reptiles should not be employed.
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>>4. Healthy animals should not be euthenized because of behavior issues people don't want to deal with (I see this on animal cops frequently and it disgusts me)
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>>5. When people sue for loss of non domestic animals due to products, they should be paid for pain and suffering and not just faulty objects.
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>>6. PETA needs to calm the hell down
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)