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Gem still has coccidia after 2 treatments. The first treatment was for coccidia and pinworms. The labs said she only had few of each. Treatment was 30mg/kg on first day and 15mg/kg for the 2-6 days. I had her checked 2 weeks after the the final dose and the coccidia was worse! The second dose was 50mg/kg once per day for 12 days. Just had her checked again 2 weeks after final dose and coccidia has not gone down at all. She is gaining 20-30 grams per week and 1/2" per week. This time the vet has doubled the dose (from .2ml to .4ml) for the same 12 days. She weighs 266 grams and is 16.25"stl and will be 6 months on 3/6. Is the dosage too much for her to handle. I give her extra water and probiotics with the meds. She also gets extra baths. With the last round of meds she never slowed her eating at all! Any help would be great! Also will Nolvasan kill the coccidia? Husband is allergic to bleach.

method for treating high resistant coccidia?

Its a variation of a pulse method and is a little longer, but less meds?

It has been very effective in treating resistan coccidia without having to dose the dragons to heavily and also gives them a break day between the doses.

Another thing and only the vet can check this, is that the med is still good, not past the expiration date or that it has not got hot, which can break it down and nake it ineffective.
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I just printed it from your website. Thanks for the info. I am also ordering 2 copies of the "Understanding Parasites: A Basic Manual for Herpetoculturists and Veterinarians by Roger Klingenberg" One is for me and the other is for my vet. Will Nolvasan kill the coccidia? I have read on other forums that bleach won't kill coccidia. They are using ammonia and hot water or ammonia and steam. What do you think?

according to the parasitologists at purdue's vet school, bleach well kill coccidia. Another alternative is boiling water or steam. Both will kill coccidia.
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Russ

really well.... remember, anything plastic or silicon can absorb it and then under high heats produce gases.

Nolvasan is safe, effective and smells better
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Thanks for the Nolvasan info. I'm glad to hear it works on coccidia. I hate bleach also. On another forum someone mentioned something about "green soap". Have you heard of it? Does it work on coccidia?

That stuff is awesome for cleaning carpets and other fabric items, its a great degreaser if you need one,but can be a mild eye irritant if got in the eye.

I use simple green to clean the carpets in my car.... it cleans them amazingly well!! I use to use this often as an all purpose cleaner, unitl I switched over to nolvasan. Another good product to use around animals and for cleaning is lemon quat or now also available in mint.
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What is the "pulse method?"

My vet had me do .3 ccs a day for 3 days, then every other day for a week. Is that it?
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1.0.1 bearded dragons (Ocho / Domo-kun)
0.1 kingsnake (Rio)
1.0 ferret (Playstation)
1.0 cat (Wally)
0.1 dog (Tima)

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your dragon, not all dragons.
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My vet prescribed Puff's treatment as five days on (one drop a day) and then a drop every other day for SIX weeks. After reading everyones posts, do you think thats a bit long for a dragon that is only two months old? Should I maybe take his fecal back in after two weeks instead of six??

You didn't say how you're housing the Dragons while going through treatment. My Vet told me to switch to paper towels and newspaper while also getting rid of wood and other porous items that are hard to clean and disinfect. Everytime my dragons poop I take the soiled paper towels and underlying newspaper out and throw it away. When they run through their poop before I can clean it I take them out and clean their feet and any other areas where fecal matter is on them. They can re-infect by running through the po then running through their food dish.

My Vet also said Nolvasan will kill some of the coccidia. So I asked for some.
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0.0.2 Bearded Dragons(Ziggy and Stardust)

She is on shelf liner covered with paper towels. I am home all day so as soon as she poos, everything comes out is cleaned with Nolvasan and new paper is put in. She has one resin basking/hide for furniture. I have 2 basking/hides so they are changed and the dirty one is cleaned. If she happens to get poo on her, she gets a bath with Nolvasan. I have another dragon, they have been housed in a 55 gallon tank split in half with plexiglass for 3 months. All of his fecals have come back negative!

Albon has been shown to cause cancer in Beardies. Ask your vet about Panacur, its a much safer alternative. I am a vet tech and our vet has stopped prescibing Albon to Herps alltogether.

What? Cancer? Get out of here! That's not good at all!

I know my Vet gave me Albon during the 1st round and the numbers went down. Then on the follow up, she gave me another antibiotic to use instead of Albon. I'll have to ask her abut this.
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0.0.2 Bearded Dragons(Ziggy and Stardust)

Gem was given Panacur for pinworms during the 1st round, but that is not for coccidia.

So a few questions 'bout this albon-cancer-panacur buisness.

1) what is the basis for the statement that sulfadimethoxine(albon) causes cancer?

2) what is the basis for the statement that fenbendazole (panacur) has any effect on coccidia?

I can't find anything published on the topic.

Thanks
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Russ