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Hypermelanistic Ball Python

Renaissance Feb 26, 2004 04:18 PM

We thought you might enjoy seeing this Hypermelanistic that we are working with. Hypermelanisism is one of our favorite traits in ball pythons, but it is just so difficult to find really nice examples of this trait.

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dbreptiles Feb 26, 2004 04:32 PM

i have a pair that are very similar to yours, here is the picture, which if anything makes the markings on him seem brighter then they are in the flesh, i will take a better picture of them tomorrow

Renaissance Feb 26, 2004 05:50 PM

The flash makes our animal look a lot lighter than he really is. Additionally, we found that the closer-up we took the picture, the lighter he looked. We were trying to get a nice, detailed picture of him, which is why we opted for the close-up picture with flash, although this did detract somewhat from his appearance.

ballboutique Feb 26, 2004 04:34 PM

Very interesting. I am speechless.
I have a 66% het pied that is dark but that is real dark.
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8ballpythons Feb 26, 2004 04:37 PM

To me, that is an outstanding example of a hypermel! Thank you for sharing!

What are your thoughts on the genetics behind the trait? If I remeber correctly it seems that not all "hypermelanistic appearing" animals produce hypermels (either directly or thru line breeding) but I am certainly not "in the know". I would love to see a "line" of these animals producing offspring as dark as the one in your picture!

Thank you again!

-adam

dbreptiles Feb 26, 2004 04:40 PM

i dont know whether you were talking to Renaissance or myself, but the male (pic) was produced last year, from breeding my female Hypermelanistic to her 'het' son, i am hoping to breed the male back to mum this year. i will post a picture of the female, and some comparison shots tomorrow.

8ballpythons Feb 26, 2004 04:58 PM

to either really, just looking to learn more about something that i don't know much about ...

... i don't remember who the breeder was, but i think a few years back someone line bred some really great looking hypermels for a couple of seasons and got all normals.

Seems like i was way off the mark! and thank goodness because hypermels are just awesome!

thanks again

-adam

RandyRemington Feb 26, 2004 05:36 PM

Shows what I know, someone told me that they get lighter as they get older. I saw a really sweet 1,000 gram girl once and then later saw her less than stunning hatchlings and they told me that they would grow to get nicer looking.

dbreptiles Feb 26, 2004 05:42 PM

as a hatchling this male was not very impressive, i held him back because he had a grey/charcoal belly, and with every shed he loses more patten, and gains more black (his sheds are also clear/patternless)

Renaissance Feb 26, 2004 05:56 PM

Our male was this color as a hatchling, and has maintained the degree of hypermelanism as he has matured. We anticipate that he will maintain this appearance in the coming years, but will have to wait and see.

LooneyLady Feb 27, 2004 02:31 AM

breeding to azanthinc and then breeding the double hets removing the yellow/brown hues with the one in 16 odds create a black ball python.
The same affect for the snowball becoming white?
If so that would be sooooooo cooooool.A black ball python.
Any thoughts? Thanks and beautiful animal.
Sizzel

RandyRemington Feb 26, 2004 10:03 PM

Somehow I managed to post to the wrong thread. This was meant for the hypomelanistic/ghost thread. Funny that it might even apply to hypermelanistic too (didn't NERD's really black one look blackest as a hatchling?).

Renaissance Feb 26, 2004 05:52 PM

We are hoping to prove the genetics of this animal at some point in the future. We are confident that it will prove genetic, but we cannot state that as fact until we (hopefully) prove it to be.

Thanks again.

Tracker Feb 26, 2004 06:17 PM

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Murphinski Feb 26, 2004 07:35 PM

Looks like you already found that really nice example...best of luck proving him/her out.

Tom

Renaissance Feb 26, 2004 09:11 PM

Hmmm..."Murphinski"...is this a new user ID?

I don't suppose by any chance you're the "Tom Murphy" who used to frequent this forum...???

If so, nice to have you back...

If not, nice to hear from you anyway...

Thanks again.

Murphinski Feb 26, 2004 09:26 PM

Old username wouldn't work.....made me re-register. New username is an old family story.....won't bore you

Been out of it, so to speak, for a while, but I see nothing's changed here.

Thanx
Tom

Kikai Feb 27, 2004 07:26 AM

Wow...nice animal. Now, put that one next to the Paragon.....my new desktop!
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1.1 Ball Python 0.0.1 corn snake 1.0 Bearded Dragon
0.0.2 fish 1.2 cats 3.1 kids 1.0 husband and now...
0.0.1 Pink Zebra Beauty Tarantula
2.0 Solomon Island Boas

Renaissance Mar 01, 2004 12:55 AM

If you seriously want a desktop of the Paragon and the Hypermelanistic, we'll do a high-resolution one just for you...

Kikai Mar 01, 2004 08:49 AM

Gaaahhhh.....Boy, that would be sweet! I'd be the envy of my herp-neighborhood!! Gail & Nigel, you'll spoil me.
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1.1 Ball Python 0.0.1 corn snake 1.0 Bearded Dragon
0.0.2 fish 1.2 cats 3.1 kids 1.0 husband and now...
0.0.1 Pink Zebra Beauty Tarantula
2.0 Solomon Island Boas

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