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Two sides of the story... Calci-sand...

Bammer Jun 10, 2003 09:00 AM

Ok, I bet this have probally been on here a thousand times... but Is it Really safe to use calci sand with an adult leo?

I am getting worried because I see her chowing down on a cricket but there is a bunch of sand in her mouth too!

Some say it is ok, say say otherwise... What are your opinions?

THanks in advance...
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Starkey
Mystic Eye

Replies (5)

geeboo Jun 10, 2003 09:46 AM

An adult leo should be able to pass small amounts of it. Though it is not the best. I have read that it somewhat neutrilizes the stomach acids used for digestion also. I used it for a while but did not care for it, hard to keep clean and it stank after a while.

jdlyk Jun 10, 2003 10:10 AM

I use it in my leo's tank. He's about a year old. I have never had any problems with it.

mordiemann Jun 10, 2003 10:45 AM

I`ve used it for about a year and I have three geckoes in it. It should just be good for the geckoe to get some more calsium, it can nutralize the stomach acid because it`s a base(doesn`t really know how it is on english), but not in those amounts. However the stank is a fact, but if you use a strainer after a couple of weeks, it`ll clean out all the droppings.
I use it and I like it.

WingedWolfPsion Jun 10, 2003 06:20 PM

Playground sound is probably much safer. It's also a great deal less expensive. Calcium sands apparently don't dissolve well when swallowed, and the particle sizes are larger, so there's a greater risk of impaction from ingestion. As for neutralizing digestion, probably not, as we regularly dust our crickets with digestable calcium anyhow. Also, since they barely dissolve, very little calcium is actually liberated to interfere with digestion.

I realize some people prefer to completely (or nearly completely) eliminate the risk of impactions, and use paper towels or tiles....I think the geckos likely prefer a more natural substrate, one they can dig in if they like, so I use playground sand. Most people who use plain sand never have a problem. Small amounts of sand pass through the intestinal tract without issue. Use a feeding bowl to minimize sand-swallowing, particularly with mealworms and other low-slung crawlies.

It's very cheap, about $2.50 for a 30 pound bag. You can spot-clean it with a sifter, and replace it regularly without a wince. If it gets wet, it just dries out again, rather than growing mold.

I don't personally approve of the folks who crowd geckos into very small enclosures with just the bare minimum of necessities. Just because they will tolerate this and breed does not make it ideal for them psychologically, they are very hardy animals.

Mine are on sand, with a dry hide area, a humid hide, and when appropriate, a laying box is put in. They also have a dish for water and for food, and branches to climb on. It is a sweater box, which I consider to be a minimum space for 3 geckos, but it is not just a box with newspaper and a tupperware container full of vermiculite, and nothing else.

lissag25 Jun 11, 2003 02:58 AM

i had both my leo and beardie on calci-sand for close to 2 years and decided to switch to playsand ..it is about ten times cheaper . more natural and easier to pass... plus calci-sand is so very ugly.. with all the wierd colours and such.

alissa

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