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Please don't hurt me for asking this question but, can I house a uro and a beardie together. The needs are the same pretty much and they both need a desert climate so can I?
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Denise (Mom) and/or Jared (son)
Take care!

I got my answer
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Denise (Mom) and/or Jared (son)
Take care!

I asked the same question & I was advised not to mix species. Oh Well!
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~*~ Nikki ~*~

i know i guy who has done it for 9 years and has been breeding both species for quite some time.

You're asking for trouble by keeping the two together. First off, Uros need MUCH higher temps then beardies (Uros temps can seriously harm and even kill beardies). Second Beardies need water dishes where uros should have them due to the fact that they can get tail rot and skin blisters from too high of humidity. Third, Beardies need some insect/animal protien where Uros should have a completely animal protein free diet. Fourth, Beardies and uros are from completely different parts of the world. Point? Natural gut parasites in one might hurt the other. Example? Coccidia. Beardies always have it. The level varies but they always have it. I haven't heard that uros are suppose to... I'm sure others will add their points to this. But these 4 points should be enough to show that the two should NOT be housed together. Not to mention that beardies don't like "Company". They are solitary. "Buddies" can stress them out. Not trying to start a fight. Just making a point. Neither animal is thriving by living together. Both are probably stressed out. Remember, just cause they SEEM ok, doesn't mean they are. In the wild, reptiles that show weakness are prey for other animals. They won't show anything till they're already dying. If you know someone who's been housing the two spieces together for 9 years, then He's been housing them incorrectly for 9 years and should be educated properly. Both spieces will suffer if housed together. End of story.
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2.0.0 Iguanas, 2.4.0 Beardies, 1.2.0 Saharan/Nigerian Uromastyx, 1.1.1 Leos, 0.0.1 African Fat Tail, 1.0.0 Columbian Rainbow Boa, 0.0.1 Fla Garter Snake, 0.0.1 Corn Snake, 0.0.3 Fire Belly Toads, 1.0.0 Eastern Painted Turtle, 0.0.1 African Sideneck, 1.1.1 Horses {Baby next May!!!}, 2.2.0 cats, 0.1.0 dog, and I'm done for now.....

He is a very experienced herp keeper. He owns three seperate pet shop and has hundreds of animals. The way i house them is working fine. They act the same way as they did when they lived alone. As for the other points. I hand feed my beardie superworms and crickets( my uros eat a few from time to time). I keep a small wter bowl in the cage that frequently see my uros drink from. And as for the basking spot it is multi level so the uros can be in the hot zone and the beardie can be in cooler areas. They live in a large enclosure and do not even notice eachother. I f you would like to speak to the man that keeps the two together go to his site www.ultimatereptiles.com and send him an email.
By the way my beardie has been GAINING wait since i put her back in with my uro.

she just stated her opinions about the caging set up that you outlined, and you simply stated your cage set ups. if the way you have your set ups set up USSUALLY doesn't work for most, but it is for you and for this other guy, then fine!!! no reason to argue or change anything. as long as both animals are happy and healthy then theres no problems.

it is said that the most advanced level of herp keeping is setting up an eco system that houses several lizards, anphibs, and invertibretes in the same setup, and all the creatures breed and propagate their species, and all pets stay healthy. most of the time when people try this it doesn't work....cause most people have too small of a vivarium. if given enough space...theres no reason why the can't be housed together. someday...we may find that we can actually house many species together without problems if we house them in big enough inclosures. at this time we can't say what is "big enough" cause we don't know yet...but, we can tell that the bigger the better as with single species housing and that, as of now...people see it as a very bad thing, eventually everyone will be trying it.

those that are successfully housing multiple herps in one terrarium and all inhabitants are staying healthy and cut free, are actually more advanced then those of us who are keeping 1 species per cage. i find no problem with it as long as theres more than enough space and everyones weights and eating is checked on and the keeper knows what they're doing.

hope this helps

trevor

I agree. I was pointing out proven facts in a conversational manner. I didn't appreciate the nasty tone of the reply. But to each their own. For the vast majority, mixing spieces doesn't work. It causes stress, sickness, and death for most. That's proven. However if it's working out for herp boy, congrats. I hope it continues to work out for your animals sake. I still disagree that it's ok to house two different spieces from two different parts of the world together but again, to each their own. I could possibly understand if the animals were at least from the same part of the planet but, they aren't. Which is a main concern to me. But You aren't worried about it. If your animals are doing well, good for you. I won't chance it with mine. Uros are still too new and misunderstood. I won't take chances that could jepordize my animals health. Some people are willing to further the knowleage of what these guys can take. I'm not one of them. If both are healthy and stay that way, good, if not, your concern, not mine. I was simply trying to help. I wouldn't reccomend New keepers try mixing spieces. I hope you'd at least agree to that. If not, your choice. But you can also deal with it when people take your advice and their animals aren't as lucky as yours are. Anyway, that's my opinion and last time I checked I had the right to state it.
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2.0.0 Iguanas, 2.4.0 Beardies, 1.2.0 Saharan/Nigerian Uromastyx, 1.1.1 Leos, 0.0.1 African Fat Tail, 1.0.0 Columbian Rainbow Boa, 0.0.1 Fla Garter Snake, 0.0.1 Corn Snake, 0.0.3 Fire Belly Toads, 1.0.0 Eastern Painted Turtle, 0.0.1 African Sideneck, 1.1.1 Horses {Baby next May!!!}, 2.2.0 cats, 0.1.0 dog, and I'm done for now.....

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2.0.0 Iguanas, 2.4.0 Beardies, 1.2.0 Saharan/Nigerian Uromastyx, 1.1.1 Leos, 0.0.1 African Fat Tail, 1.0.0 Columbian Rainbow Boa, 0.0.1 Fla Garter Snake, 0.0.1 Corn Snake, 0.0.3 Fire Belly Toads, 1.0.0 Eastern Painted Turtle, 0.0.1 African Sideneck, 1.1.1 Horses {Baby next May!!!}, 2.2.0 cats, 0.1.0 dog, and I'm done for now.....

If you can house them both together, maintaining healthy weight, with enough room for them to not feel crowded, hey, more power to you. Housing two Uros together under incorrect parameters will stress them out and they may fight. So the challenges of housing a Uro and a beardie bear some similarities to the challenges of housing two Uros together. Like I said, you can pull it off, more power to you. Lord knows they aren't going to be competing for food. If you really have an itch to house something (other than a Uro) with your Uro, try an Agama (their cousin).
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Mark Martinez
University of Florida

A Bearded Dragon is an Agamid. Just pointing it out.

>>If you can house them both together, maintaining healthy weight, with enough room for them to not feel crowded, hey, more power to you. Housing two Uros together under incorrect parameters will stress them out and they may fight. So the challenges of housing a Uro and a beardie bear some similarities to the challenges of housing two Uros together. Like I said, you can pull it off, more power to you. Lord knows they aren't going to be competing for food. If you really have an itch to house something (other than a Uro) with your Uro, try an Agama (their cousin).
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>>Mark Martinez
>>University of Florida
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Excellent! That should only make it better.
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Mark Martinez
University of Florida

a hard thing to do. but like i said before and was stated above....if you can do it safely and they both thrive, then great!!!!

trevor

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