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Help with conditioning kings.

numbsun Mar 01, 2004 02:49 PM

In previous conditionings I've had a basement with a pretty steady temp that was perfect for conditioning. Now I've got an apartment and I don't have such a luxury. I'm thinking of using the balcony. Right now it's getting up to about 60 in the day and as low as 35 at night. What is too high and too low for temps to reach? Thanks.
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-F. R. Murphy
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Replies (4)

rtdunham Mar 02, 2004 02:40 PM

>>In previous conditionings I've had a basement with a pretty steady temp that was perfect for conditioning. Now I've got an apartment and I don't have such a luxury. I'm thinking of using the balcony. Right now it's getting up to about 60 in the day and as low as 35 at night. What is too high and too low for temps to reach?

by "conditioning" do you mean caring for them during the period AFTER brumation and before putting males and females together, so that successful reproduction occurs?

if so, you probably need to tell us more, paritcularly at what temp your animals were brumated (brumation being the over-winter reptile version of "hibernation", which is necessary in most instances to stimulate the reproductive organ changes that result in breeding; if you already knew that, please don't take offense...i'm starting with fundamentals because this is the time of year for brumation to be ending, but the temps you mention sound more like brumation temps, and pretty cold ones at that--see below)

Most people brumate kings at maybe 55 to 60 (others will no doubt use other temps and i encourage them to provide that info here); so your challenge is in warming up the animals over a period of a week or ten days to a maintenance temp that might be closer to 80...clearly your balcony temps are out of line for that, and with lows of 35 they're too low for brumation, too, thus my confusion above.

Give us some more info and i'm sure someone here can help with your specific questions.

peace
terry dunham
albino tricolors
st pete, florida

numbsun Mar 03, 2004 05:49 AM

I mean strictly for brumation of the animals. I have the facilities to slowly return them to normal temperatures. I need ideas as to what I can do to lower their temperatures and keep them within the 50s for brumation. Lacking a basement, I have no area of my house with such a cool ambient temperature anymore.

Thanks in advance for your tips.
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-F. R. Murphy
1.0 Mali Uro
0.1 Red Niger Uro
1.0 Savanna Monitor
1.0 Veiled Chameleon
1.1 Cal. Kingsnake
1.0 Blood Python
1.0 Viper Boa
1.0 Amazon Tree Boa
Misc. Tree Frogs

Jeff Schofield Mar 03, 2004 10:23 PM

Those temps vary widely and are completely uncontrollable.Better to even PAY a fee for a storage unit or a space in a friends(OK,a GOOD friend's.lol)basement or garage than risk the elements.A good substitute may be an old fridge that can be kept outside and more adequately monitored for consistent temps....Of course test everything out before you use it with min/max thermometers.What state are you located??It will help us figure this out for you,good luck,Jeff

numbsun Mar 08, 2004 10:59 AM

I'm in Indiana, Northeast Indiana. Currently asking everyone I know if they have a basement. I'm cursed however, by the fact that I don't know that many people. Damn it. Thanks for the help.
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-F. R. Murphy
1.0 Mali Uro
0.1 Red Niger Uro
1.0 Savanna Monitor
1.0 Veiled Chameleon
1.1 Banded Cal. Kingsnake
0.1 Albino Banana Cal. Kingsnake
0.1 Striped Banana Cal. Kingsnake
1.0 Blood Python
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