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Ginger Sanders
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I think you have a great point.

I appreciate the fact that you are on this particular forum as you know it can be quite a handful.
What are the chances that we can see the determining criteria for
what is pulled and what is not?
I read the TOS, but sometimes I have the sneaking suspicion that all someone needs to do is complain and a post is yanked. Normally, you should pull posts based on complaint in my opinion, but what if you have a person who is like the story "Boy That Cried Wolf"?

Do you take that into consideration or is that not a factor?

I appreciate any input and only posted because I think most folks would be interested in the answer.

Thanks Ginger.

**What are the chances that we can see the determining criteria for what is pulled and what is not?
I read the TOS, but sometimes I have the sneaking suspicion that all someone needs to do is complain and a post is yanked. Normally, you should pull posts based on complaint in my opinion, but what if you have a person who is like the story "Boy That Cried Wolf"?

Do you take that into consideration or is that not a factor?**

Well, this is extremely easy for me to answer. I seldom, if ever, see the complaints. They go to someone else. So they don't even enter into my judgement. The majority of the moderators don't see them either. All complaints do, when we get them, is to direct us to look at a situation. They don't carry half the weight some folks think they do.

TOS is the determining factor. We only pull if there is a violation or if we are pulling a whole thread of something and a post is caught in that.

I am often the "second opinion" brought in by a moderator who wants to be sure they are doing the correct thing. The thing that is drilled into the moderators is to judge only by the TOS. If they are unsure, they will double check themselves.

Does that answer your question?
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Ginger Sanders
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Yes, Ginger....It does answer my question.

I guess from my point of view, some of the things that have been yanked are a stretch to be a violation of the TOS. I guess that's why I'm not a moderator.

I also think this hobby/business needs a place to voice opinion no matter how inflammatory (not rude and crude, but succinct) if the information is presented intelligently.

What is the liability to KS, if KS has a clause in the Terms and Conditions, that indemnifies the site against the threat of libel or slander? Free speech. Why not?

I do appreciate your honesty and hope someday you are allowed to tweak the TOS. I think the sight is good to a point, but could be SO much better.

Thanks Ginger.