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Grief and Sorrow/Turtles Gone

turtlesong Mar 03, 2004 04:48 AM

I had twelve turtles up to a month ago. I had to give them away. Five I gave to a pet shop, two to a stranger, and the others, I abandoned at a hotel.

Just went through hell and can't explain. All I can say is that this was the last thing I wanted to happen. I raised them well, put a lot of money into them, care, time. . .then some jerks screwed me over and now this.

I feel so bad that some of them might've died or be suffering the elements, because I'm overseas and people don't readily accept animals indoors here. Maybe I took on too much and the stress got to me. But now this feeling of sadness I did them wrong kind of breaks my heart.

Replies (9)

LeatherFace420 Mar 03, 2004 09:23 AM

Im sorry to hear about all that but why on earth would you abandon them at a hotel???? please tell me it was in a lake or something because if not thats horrible

crtoon83 Mar 04, 2004 03:07 AM

Eh leatherface, don't be quite as harsh. Obviously she's upset over this, and it's not good to rub it into her face. Hope you get better over time with everything, and good luck in the future.

turtlesong Mar 04, 2004 11:58 PM

The hotel thing was a last resort to save them but. . .I got sick and had to leave in a hurry and the lady there. . .well, she said she'd give 'em to somebody.

I think they're okay. If not, it's the cruel reality of nature and mankind here, which is not always conducive to us pethobbyists and pet lovers back in the West.

I have to start from the bottom again. This time, I'll make sure I have a way to transport and bring them back home. You see, I'm in the Orient. Turtles are well-liked here but not well-understood. At the hotel, I had had enough. Just broke down, I guess, due to the stress and travel and myriads of other things.

But how do I deal with this guilt? Anyone else out there ever have to abandon their pets? I really tried hard this time not to do this, but. . .maybe I'll give this hobby up for now.

Katrina Mar 06, 2004 04:27 PM

Yes, I've had to abandon before. I had two cats right before I went into the military. I was in an economically depressed part of the southwest, where animals typically aren't well thought of, either, with a low-paying job at a business that was about to fold, no training or skill to go with a BS, and no money to afford to move to another area. It was the early 90s when the US was in a recession, and jobs were hard to find anywhere, but almost impossible in a small southwest town on the edge of the plains. The Air Force was my salvation and only answer to finding a better life. I had taken in two kittens not long before - they would have died had I not taken them in, one litterally thrown onto a busy highway in a box (and only 6 weeks old at the time) and the other wandering the outskirts of town at only a three months old. They were 4 and 5 months old when I had to leave for basic. There was no animal shelter or humane society in the area, just a few cages at the police station, and "euthanasia" ment a bullet in the head at the city landfill. Try as I might, no one wanted to take on two unsterilized cats, in an area where strays and ferals roamed the streets already. One kindly rancher agreed to take the older female to keep as a barn cat, even though I knew there were risks. She disappeared a week later - her fate might have been the result of a coyote, starvation, dehydration, poisoning, leg-hold trap, or even a rattlesnake bite. The male kitten went to my mother-in-law's house, but she wouldn't let him be a house cat, and he ended up dead in at the street curb a few months later, probably hit by a car.

So, after more than a decade, I still cry when I think about the two cats I abandoned, and can honestly say, that if I had to do it over again, I would have scraped together the money to have them humanely euthanized by a vet before I left! I was too much of a coward to do it at the time, even knowing what the fate of the cats might be. I had no choice but to leave town to find a better life, and couldn't find a decent home to take the cats.

Now, I try to let other people learn from my experience. Humane euthanasia by a trained technician is NOT the worst thing that can happen to an animal, and I recommend that any that absolutely cannot keep their animal, and cannot find a qualified home to take it, should seriously consider euthanasia. That is what I think you should have done, if you could have found a vet that knew enough to eutahnize the animals in a humane manner. They were red-eared sliders, where they not, in a land where they are not native?

Katrina

turtlesong Mar 08, 2004 11:34 PM

Yes, they were res's. Eight of them. I guess I could've let them go in a river or pond, but that would've been just like euthanasia too, something which I couldn't face either. Well, it's over for now. I feel no more grief, as this is the third time this has happened, in a way, so it's just my lifestyle and the fact I always feel attached to suffering animals too.

I guess I'm just waiting to recover from some things in my life also, finding a better opportunity in life just like you. The act of taking care of animals requires a lot of security and lots of human compassion, but when it comes down to your own self-presentation, you have to kind of forego your own human compassion for other creatures and just depend on life itself to pull you through.

Katrina Mar 09, 2004 10:24 PM

The important thing is TO LEARN FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE. If this is the third time this has happened, you really should re-evaluate why you have animals. As I said, euthanasia by an experienced vet or technician IS NOT the worse thing that can happen. If you don't have the resources to care for an animal in need - and that can be money, space, time, or emotional resources - and there is no one else to help, then euthansia might be the best option in some cases. In the future, don't take on more than you can handle. Learn from this experience, otherwise this suffering happened for nothing.

Katrina

"Posted by: turtlesong at Mon Mar 8 23:34:24 2004
Yes, they were res's. Eight of them. I guess I could've let them go in a river or pond, but that would've been just like euthanasia too, something which I couldn't face either. Well, it's over for now. I feel no more grief, as this is the third time this has happened, in a way, so it's just my lifestyle and the fact I always feel attached to suffering animals too.

I guess I'm just waiting to recover from some things in my life also, finding a better opportunity in life just like you. The act of taking care of animals requires a lot of security and lots of human compassion, but when it comes down to your own self-presentation, you have to kind of forego your own human compassion for other creatures and just depend on life itself to pull you through."

turtlesong Mar 10, 2004 12:31 AM

Katrina,

I still have five turtles I can retrieve from a pet shop. Lady said she still has them. I'm going to get them and let three of them go this Spring. Two I'm going to keep.

I guess I did take on more than I could handle. Stress got to me. I've learned.

mariza Mar 11, 2004 11:56 AM

I just have to ask. Why are you going to retrieve the five turtles only to let three of them go in the spring? If they`ve only been cared for by you, wouldn`t they lack the skills to survive in the wild?@I lived in Asia for a number of years and know that pet shops there aren`t the best, but wonder if letting them go is the answer.@(And how do you decide which three go?)

Katrina Mar 19, 2004 04:31 PM

Releasing them is NOT the answer, as they are not native. They may very well live and reproduce, which is part of the probmlem - they will be competing with native turtles.

Katrina

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