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Ok so if i breed a rainwater albino male to a Bell albino female i will not produce albinos? I dont understand if they are both leopard gecko's both albino but wont produce albino's together? Can someone straighten this out for me??? Because i bought a albino from a wholesaler and it didnt come from a bloodline does that mean i have to get another albino and hope they are the same blood this makes no sence to me.

The 3 albino strains are caused by sets of alleles for 3 different genes. Basically there is a different thing causing the albino appearance in each of the strains...which means breeding animals of different strains together gives you normal appearing babies that are double heterozygous for the two traits. In laymen's terms that means they have the capability to produce albino offspring if mated to an albino of either strain, and possibly if bred with a het of either strain or another double het. If bred with another het you'd also have the possibility of getting a "double albino" or a leo of both albino strains. If you posted pics of your albino we might be able to help you id its strain...although it can be difficult to tell the difference. It's almost definitely a tremper though if you got it from a wholesaler.
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Christina

1.3.1 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)

-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)

-0.0.1 albino (supposed Tremper)(Spitfire)

-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

Tremper seems to be the closest match was just checking out the classifieds My baby is very banded and clean no spots.. Il be posting in a few days or so..

look at my site. Both are differnt Strian of Albino. Becasue there is T- and T Albinos. If cross differnt Strain of Albino to Albino and you will produce normal ans het for both.
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Preston Berry
www.freewebs.com/coolgeckoUnder Construction
restonberry@austin.rr.com" target="_blank">Prestonberry@austin.rr.com

You might want to work on your grammar...I looked at the albino thing and your grammar is just terrible...it makes it look unprofessional and unreliable. I don't mean for you to take offense, I'm just trying to let you know that you should have someone help you with that if you want people to take you seriously. A great many people won't deal with any person selling things if they see a single typo on a webpage or in an ad.
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Christina

1.3.1 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)

-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)

-0.0.1 albino (supposed Tremper)(Spitfire)

-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

I want to apologize for the previous post... I realize it may have made you feel bad, but I had no intention of that. I was just trying to let you know that you might want to have someone help you with the grammar on your website...I'm really not trying to be mean or anything, I'm just trying to help. You'll make more sales if you get a little help with it
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Christina

1.3.1 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)

-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)

-0.0.1 albino (supposed Tremper)(Spitfire)

-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

Sign language has a different set of grammar rules. He should probably make that fact clear on his webpage so people don't underestimate him though. He is a nice kid with some gorgeous animals.
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E2MacPets
http://www.e2macpets.com

i have to partially disagree...... he doesnt have to explain jack on his website.. because i cant see should i have to???
if people do not like it they can go elsewhere i think preston will have plenty of people banging on his door for his stock regaurdless. preston has some of the most amazing animals.. its about his stock,and husbandry not his typing.. and its really no ones business if he can or cant hear and its his choice if he wants to disclose that.. i dont see it as a problem... he gets his point across the way he is able to and the way he wants
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-robin struck
Geckoheads And Geeks

n/p
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E2MacPets
http://www.e2macpets.com

Well Said Robin! That is very True.
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Preston Berry
www.freewebs.com/coolgeckoUnder Construction
restonberry@austin.rr.com" target="_blank">Prestonberry@austin.rr.com

i know preston personally and he is one of the most knowledgabole people i know... he absorbs everything. and you know what yes he is deaf and i assume it hinders some of his grammar ecause he cant hear... SO WHAT... i am blind (really, legally) i want to do everything myself without help and be independant and you know what i am! i applaud preston and his site and his independance in making it himself.... i think its great. preston is only 15 but you could learn a wealth of info grom him if you took off your blinders and just listen to the points he is making instead of criticizing his spelling and grammer......... my grammar and spelling sucks so critcize me because i can hear and still mess up, shoot i even have a college education.. personally i dont give a rats ass if you like my spelling or grammar or not... its not intentional i just dont take the time to reread my posts... get off your high horse and respect the young man for his knowledge and his independance and endevors at only 15 and being deaf.. grrr
he knows his stuff!!!
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-robin struck
Geckoheads And Geeks

I made no mention of him not knowing what he was talking about. I was just trying to let him know, if he didn't, that a lot of people may assume that he doesn't from his grammar. I'm aware of his deafness and his age, and was not trying to be insulting. I know that he knows his stuff...but people just browsing his website don't know him and don't know that, and most people that see bad grammar automatically assume people don't know what they're talking about. I didn't say that was how I felt. I was trying to make a suggestion to help him, not insult him. I'm sorry I seem to offended everyone...I had no intent to do that, and I don't know why everyone just assumed that I don't think he knows anything. Anyway....Preston I'm sorry if you took anything the wrong way...I'm really just trying to be helpful.
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Christina

1.3.1 leos
-0.1 tangerine het rainwater albino w/jungle background (Blinkers)

-0.2 jungles (Vahz & Skissor)

-0.0.1 albino (supposed Tremper)(Spitfire)

-1.0 tangerine rainwater albino (Bronx)

Wow.
I know I'm a lil' late in this, but I can't help but say something.

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The post that started all of this, while lacking in tact to a degree, was correct. It doesn't matter whether you're deaf, blind, or a quadruple amputee, certain truths always apply. For instance, a website (or any other advertising medium) that is professional in appearance is more appealing than one that is not. Bad grammar and misspelling falls into the latter category. First impressions are like that. I'm not slamming on the guy's website, I think it looks nice. Is it a shame that a website with that much work into it can be weakened by a lack of proofreading? Absolutely!

Noone would care about my opinion anyway, but in a nutshell, here it is-
Christina was slightly lacking in decorum with her original post, but meant well.
Christina's point was accurate.
She apologized.
No matter the situation of the company (or persons), a well written website is preferable to one with mistakes.
Lay off the Christina chick.

Ignore this, or flame away

J

Preston, currently we know that all strains of proven albino leopard geckos have proven to be T . The production/blockage of tyrosine is affected in different ways on each albino in each albino strain resulting in each strain being genetically different. Now remember that these animals produce and show tyrosinase (hence called T ), but can not import tyrosine causing these animals to exhibit the abnormal coloration we call T albinos. If the animal was T-, it would not produce tyrosinase, resulting in an animal similar in coloration to the albino ball pythons. Take to note, tyrosinase and tyrosine are two different things.

>>look at my site. Both are differnt Strian of Albino. Becasue there is T- and T Albinos. If cross differnt Strain of Albino to Albino and you will produce normal ans het for both.
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>>Preston Berry
>>www.freewebs.com/coolgeckoUnder Construction
>>Prestonberry@austin.rr.com
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Justyn Miller
Intense Herpetoculture

For some werid reason kingsnake would not allow me to make the postive sign after T.

>>Preston, currently we know that all strains of proven albino leopard geckos have proven to be T . The production/blockage of tyrosine is affected in different ways on each albino in each albino strain resulting in each strain being genetically different. Now remember that these animals produce and show tyrosinase (hence called T ), but can not import tyrosine causing these animals to exhibit the abnormal coloration we call T albinos. If the animal was T-, it would not produce tyrosinase, resulting in an animal similar in coloration to the albino ball pythons. Take to note, tyrosinase and tyrosine are two different things.
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>>>>look at my site. Both are differnt Strian of Albino. Becasue there is T- and T Albinos. If cross differnt Strain of Albino to Albino and you will produce normal ans het for both.
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>>>>Preston Berry
>>>>www.freewebs.com/coolgeckoUnder Construction
>>>>Prestonberry@austin.rr.com
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>>Justyn Miller
>>Intense Herpetoculture
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Justyn Miller
Intense Herpetoculture

There are multiple genes affecting production of black pigment. If the gecko has two copies of any of these, it will be an albino. Right now there are 3 known genes Tremper, Rainwater, and Bell in different locations. When you cross two different albino strains, the offspring will only get one Tremper gene and one Bell gene. The Tremper albino will have normal genes where the Bell gene is located and the Bell will have normal genes where the Tremper gene is located. All the babies will be double hets. I've never seen a "double albino" but it sounds like a neat project.
-Alice

How could you destinguish a "double albino" I think if you breed 2 DH's you get the more dominant gene albino 100% het for the weaker gene. But thats my opinion and im no expert. I cant believe they have albino patternless's already and havent dabbled in mixing the albino's. Im going to try to produce DH's with different strains then breed them to a albino of the 2rd strain and see what i get lol.. Hopefully make a new line of albinos that can be bred to any albino to produce albino double hets. It's almost like bakeing a pie lol.
Jason

Universal Albino. Hehe. I'm not sure about the genetics involved, but that would be pretty interesting to have an albino that can breed to all 3 (known) strains of Albino and still produce Albino offspring.
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Sal
Geckos "R" Us

www.geckosrus.com

Ok Deal you get nameing rights lol THE Universal albino Leopard Gecko it is. Anyone know what a Blizzard X Albino makes when you breed the hets?

blazing blizzard [n/p]

thats to put it simply. compare any of the 3 to a true albino reptile, ex.. ball python. has a T posative.learned that from groundgeckofreak haha.
hope that summed it up for ya
nevin
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1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-sunshine&chaos
1.1 leopard geckos-killer&sallean
1 blizzerd lizzard-grim
0.2.0 amazon tree boas-sweetness&?
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-?
0.1.0 bearded dragon-?
1.0.0 uromastyx-chubby
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont ever get drunk with a hoodie on, eventually ur ganna think someone is behind you"

albino ball python has a T-, srry typo
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1.1 brazilian rainbow baos-sunshine&chaos
1.1 leopard geckos-killer&sallean
1 blizzerd lizzard-grim
0.2.0 amazon tree boas-sweetness&?
0.1.0 kenyan sand boa-?
0.1.0 bearded dragon-?
1.0.0 uromastyx-chubby
2.0 brothers
0.2 sisters
3 cats-fat max, spiderman, &toby
1 miniture mutt-brutis

"dont be afraid to die, only be afraid to not live"

"dont ever get drunk with a hoodie on, eventually ur ganna think someone is behind you"