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Hi All,

I was wondering when the term facility should be used.
What is the definition of a Facility? Is it an un-used bedroom in a home? Is a Facility a basement or attic? This term is used in the silliest form.

I went to a website and saw a facility link and it was a bedroom not a facility. Come on, is this for real. Does this make a person seem more professional? I just had to laugh my #@$ off.

A facility is a building dedicated to business production, not a room in a house.

Thanx

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Say there's a strip mall. In just ONE section of this building there is a "breeding facility". Would this not be similar to just ONE section of your home being dedicated solely for breeding reptiles thus making it a "facility"? The term very well may present a more professional appearance within the context of a web page, and if it does....good for them. It doesn't harm anyone, and it's not a lie per say. Atleast the person you mentioned is willing to show their "facility". How many web sites have you seen of some of the "big breeders" that show ZERO pics of THEIR "facilities"??? I like to see other set ups, it gives me an idea of where my set up stands among the masses. So, while I TOTALLY see your point, I think it's being pretty picky. I'd be more influenced by the fact that they're actually willing to show the world how they keep their own animals than by what they call it....snake room, breeding facility, spare bedroom O'Snakes, Divorce Influencing Room, Etc. If you call me on the phone and I'm working with the snakes, I would say I'm in the snake room. Is that PC? This reminds me of the media when there's no real news to cover. Take care!

Paul

Alright...... Since I feel that this is a personal insult to my FACILITY, I just wanted to state something, according to Webster’s a facility is "something that is built, installed, or established to serve a particular purpose." Although my snake room may not be as awesome as Snake Keepers facility. I feel that it is a benefit to my customers to be able to actually SEE the place where the snakes are maintained. Steve and I work very hard to keep detailed records and clean our snake room every three days fully and spot check twice a day to maintain the level of hygiene we feel is required in this profession. It may ONLY be ONE room in our meek little house, but it is the facility for our snake breeding adventures and I don’t feel that it is of any matter how big or small the company is or how big or little the facility is, I feel that it is the quality of the animals which will speak volumes for the facility where they were kept. So I feel that whether you have one section of a room that is dedicated to your breeding projects or three buildings full of your projects I feel that everyone has the right to claim this as a facility for their breeding projects. I don’t mean to insult any big breeders beautiful buildings , but I feel that my facility is also worthy of a few pictures on my webpage. I don’t think that this will hurt anyone; I feel that it will only be a testament to my love for the animals. Thank you for listening to my side of the story. I wish everyone luck in the upcoming season, and hope that breeders big and small have a wonderful season and I look forward to seeing everyone in August in Daytona.

Sincerely,
Rose Hipskind

One entry found for facility.

Main Entry: fa·cil·i·ty
Pronunciation: f&-'si-l&-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
1 : the quality of being easily performed
2 : ease in performance : APTITUDE
3 : readiness of compliance
4 a (1) : something that makes an action, operation, or course of conduct easier -- usually used in plural (2) : LAVATORY 2 -- often used in plural b : something (as a hospital) that is built, installed, or established to serve a particular purpose.

As stated in Merriam-Webster Online.
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I like your 'facility'...looks very nicely done. In fact, did you make those wooden enclosures yourself? I have to ask since I am planning on building a 'facility' within the next year and love comparing what others have done vs. what I'd like to do.
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Ahhhhh Carl-
Thank you so much for your kind words, and to answer your question Steve and I did build all the pieces in our room with the exception of the large 6 foot white tanks which line one wall... The wooden rack in the back was the wonderful work of my father and it took him about 4 months. The whole piece is Red Oak with "Snake scale" wood insets on the side and some accent pieces on the top along with the cut outs of the two snake heads which wrap around the back and sides of the rack, it is a BEAUTIFUL piece and Steve and I love it... Other than weighing so much that it is nearly imposable to move it works great and is completely homemade. The Brown tanks are Steve and my work, It took us about 3 months last summer and was lets just say a learning lesson, I doubt we will do it again but....It was a good idea and it did save us some money and now my father is decided to work in wood and also acrylic and he is doing fabulous things with it, sooo it ended up being GREAT for our business.. I have attached a picture of my father’s recent acrylic work, and once again thank you sooo much for checking out the site and for all your great words about the snake room... good luck with your up and coming projects...!

Sincerely,
Rose Hipskind

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>>Alright...... Since I feel that this is a personal insult to my FACILITY, I just wanted to state something, according to Webster’s a facility is "something that is built, installed, or established to serve a particular purpose." Although my snake room may not be as awesome as Snake Keepers facility. I feel that it is a benefit to my customers to be able to actually SEE the place where the snakes are maintained. Steve and I work very hard to keep detailed records and clean our snake room every three days fully and spot check twice a day to maintain the level of hygiene we feel is required in this profession. It may ONLY be ONE room in our meek little house, but it is the facility for our snake breeding adventures and I don’t feel that it is of any matter how big or small the company is or how big or little the facility is, I feel that it is the quality of the animals which will speak volumes for the facility where they were kept. So I feel that whether you have one section of a room that is dedicated to your breeding projects or three buildings full of your projects I feel that everyone has the right to claim this as a facility for their breeding projects. I don’t mean to insult any big breeders beautiful buildings , but I feel that my facility is also worthy of a few pictures on my webpage. I don’t think that this will hurt anyone; I feel that it will only be a testament to my love for the animals. Thank you for listening to my side of the story. I wish everyone luck in the upcoming season, and hope that breeders big and small have a wonderful season and I look forward to seeing everyone in August in Daytona.
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>>Sincerely,
>>Rose Hipskind

I agree with you, Rose. The poster of this topic should be totally ashamed of themselves. Honestly! There's better things to whine about.

I recently had a run-in with someone else on this topic not too long ago. Here's a copy of my post about it on another forum:
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So on my About Me/Us page, I have a little ditty that states that "my business strives to be one of the best home-based reptile breeding facilities available."

Anyone see anything wrong with that?

Recently I read a criticizing statement someone posted on a forum I belong to and regularly post on, and while its probably not directly pointed at me, it was a little ridiculous.

Basically they were sick of people in the herp world referring to themselves as "us" and "we" trying to sound important. Does this person understand that not everyone is a singular person breeding herps??? Sure, I have to admit, some people out there do use terms like "us" and "we" even though they are a singular person. Not all of us do, however. Then again, how do we know who has more than one person helping out in a herp-related manner? We don't, not without asking!

Then the poster goes on to state that breeding herps in your home or "bedroom" does not count as a 'facility' and that only people with high-end herps (or several tens of thousands of dollars worth of animals) have the right to call their home or "room" a 'facility.' (and they specifically stated that corn snakes, and low-end boas don't account for anything, apparently)

I don't know-*shakes head* that post just irritated me when I read it. Not everyone is into the high-end animals, whether or not they have the money for them, and some of us are just in the hobby to breed those species we appreciate.

In my eyes, a 'herp-breeding facility' is any room, building, etc where herps are bred (not where they are just kept as pets), regardless of how "expensive" any of them are. My herp room takes up my downstairs and a bedroom upstairs that I use for quarantine. I've bred garters, treefrogs, and alligator lizards in the past (before finding out keeping native species is illegal here-bad me!), corn snakes, and now hopefully, leopard geckos, western hognose, and Bci.

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So there is my side of the story. Everyone who responded to my post about this issue agreed with me about what a facility is. I/we also work very hard to keep our snakes healthy and "happy" - and now that I have bred reptiles, I DO consider the lower portion of my two and a half story home to be a "facility" rather than "just another bedroom."

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Chaos cat-
Well I totally agree with you that its not the size of the projects or the room it is the hygiene and health of the animals that should really be the matter, you want to know the really ironic part, if you look up Sabine’s records he even admits that he, himself runs his snake breeding out of a room in his house. Sooooo I just think it’s a little ironic. But I am glad to hear that MY opinion on the matter wasn’t a lone cry into the dark and I wish you wonderful luck in your future breeding projects and I would love to keep in contact with you over the time. Please feel free to email me I love to meet people who have common goals in their reptile breeding as I do.

Sincerely,
Rose Hipskind
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Beautiful facility, and if you have any extra of those display cases drop me a line. Craig