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I have the following 4 corn snakes -
Female normal phase
Male Snow Corn
Female Creamsicle (was told she is het for butter)
Male Intermontana Corn/rat snake

I have looked on various website but cant see to find info on interbreeding corn snakes and different intermontana corn/rat snakes, if someone would help me with the folling i would be greatful.

What offspring would i get if i bread the following

normal corn x intermontana
creamsicle x intermontana
creamsicle x snow corn

Thanks
Ryan

I'm not sure what you are asking here.... what color will they be? What will they be called? They will be hybrids, and will look like a mix/combination of the parent snakes.

>>What offspring would i get if i bread the following
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>>normal corn x intermontana
>>creamsicle x intermontana
>>creamsicle x snow corn
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>>Thanks
>>Ryan
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~Sasheena

I dont think you quite understand the initial question, i do understand a small amount about genetics e.g. dominant and recessive genes, i was just wondering if anybody has bread these before of if they could give me a educated guess. A mix of the two parents is not an educated guess as i think the normal corn and intermontana genes are dominant and the creamsicle is recessive so there would not be a mix. Does anybody have a better answer that what was given so far?

An Intermontana is just a different name for an Emory ratsnake right?

If so...

normal corn x intermontana/emoryi =
Normal colored animals that looks a bit like both parents. I believe people call these rootbeer phase.

creamsicle x intermontana/emoryi =
Normals het creamsicle. They should look more like an emoryi than a cornsnake, since they would be 75% emoryi and only 25% corn.
I believe these would also be called rootbeer phase even though they are het for creamsicle.

creamsicle x snow corn =
Creamsicles het Anery

Make sure you represent these animals correctly when you sell the babies. Some people are very particular about the background of their animals. I know many people who wont buy anything with emoryi/creamsicle blood in them.

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alstiver@hotmail.com

1.0 2001 Hypo snow cornsnake
0.1 2002 Pastel Ghost cornsnake
1.1 2002 Bloodred cornsnakes
0.1 1998 Het Hypo, Het Caramel cornsnake
1.0 2000 Hypo Het Caramel cornsnake

...buy anything with emory/creamsicle blood in them!??!

Because it wouldn't be pure cornsnake.

It would be an intergrade between Elaphe guttata guttata and Elaphe guttata emoryi.

Some people like creamsicles, some people don't. Those people who don't, wouldn't want to buy anything that had any blood in it that wasn't pure cornsnake, even if you couldn't tell just by looking. That's why many people prefer to buy from big name breeders rather than just the guy next door because they know they can trust the big name breeders to represent their stuff correctly.

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alstiver@hotmail.com

1.0 2001 Hypo snow cornsnake
0.1 2002 Pastel Ghost cornsnake
1.1 2002 Bloodred cornsnakes
0.1 1998 Het Hypo, Het Caramel cornsnake
1.0 2000 Hypo Het Caramel cornsnake

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>>Make sure you represent these animals correctly when you sell the babies. Some people are very particular about the background of their animals. I know many people who wont buy anything with emoryi/creamsicle blood in them.
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Amanda was right about the results and also right about needing to represent anything with Emoryi blood as just that, containing emoryi blood (creamsicle or rootbear) for those people who prefer pure corns. No hybrids or intergrades.
But, there are more and more people who are working with, and enjoying, corn/emoryi mixes. If you look at any site selling creams and pure corns you will see that the demand is such that creamsicles will sell for more then most normals, anerys and amels.
I still wonder about all those people with candy canes.
Some of the original candy canes were created using emoryi....HMMM
So,some would never own one and some would love to own them (me...lol). I wouldn't let that stop your breeding plans as long as you represent any offspring properly.
Just my two cents
Jimmy

Thanks for the response, it was exactly the sort of information i was looking for.