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I've been told that a bubblegum rat is a hybrid blackratXyellowratXevergladesrat, can anyone give me any pointers on the genetics of a bubblegum rat I am considering trying to breed her with a corn and was wondering what the hatchlings might be like, also does anyone know of any sites aimed specifically at ratsnake genetics, I've found quite a few regarding corns but the other rats arent mentioned.

Kathy Love created "bubblegum rats"...yes.albino black rats mixed with yellow and everglades..they are pretty animals...that grow up to be yellow/pink/orangeish adults....pinks are nice....and the color of choice I guess..hence the name..

people call pink snow corns "bubblegum" corns to get an extra buck out of us/you.....some are pink and some just look pinkish....

then there are opals that are pink...so the mixups get really confusing at times.........

anyways.......do you have a corn or a larger ratsnake?.......

have fun........

When I bought her I was told she was a corn and having seen only her and my male in any great detail assumed the differnces in their appearance (build not colour, she is much stockier and broader looking especially across the face) was down to her being female and him male. It was suggested to me that she might be a bubblegum rat which doesn't bother me because she is a gorgeous looking snake but I am now wondering what the offspring might look like, what traits they will carry and what do I sell the offspring as, I don't want to mislead buyers into buying something they are not.

This is a pic I found on the net but it's identical to her.
http://www.bballantyne.freeuk.com/images/BUBBLEGUMRATSNAKE.jpg

What to sell the offspring as?????? You don't really seem to know what you are STARTING with, so how can you know how to honestly represent the offspring?
Right now, you have a snake that you like the looks of...that's good and fine. Maybe a corn, maybe a bubblegum rat. You can sell the offspring as: Ratsnakes of uncertain origin (you will notice that I have not used the word "mutt" yet)
If you want to breed & sell something that people will pay more than 10 bucks for...start with known stock from a reputable dealer.
For the record: I have nothing against hybrids at all...Just understand that if you don't know what you are beginning with, you can't try to sell them as anything but hybrid ratsnakes.
Or...You can say, "They are either pure corns or a corn hybrid"
It depends on if what the guy "sold them to you as" was correct.
Duffy

So if I assume she is a bubblegum rat, as this is the worse case scenario apparently, the offspring would be hybrids. That's one of the things I wanted cleared up, I wasn't sure if they would be classed as hybrid seeing as corns are of the rat snake family, so thanks. As for mutts, surely a large number of the now popular corn morphs wouldn't have been possible without cross breeding and interbreeding? I don't know, because as is most obvious, I am new to this.

It's not so much cross breeding as it is inbreeding with corns.I think most of the family tree of corns is a strait stick.

Actually, I think bubblegum rats are kinda cool. The problem is...It's all a matter of assumption. You either have to assume that the guy told you correctly, or assume that it's a bubblegum, etc. My only really vehement point is that if you don't know what you've got, you can't present the offspring as anything in particular (assuming that the intent is to be honest). Maybe you could go back to where you got them, and ask some more questions or even be put in touch with the breeder. Or don't worry too much about it right now...just enjoy your new snake. The size that it eventually reaches will provide you with some information down the road.

Since many of the amelanistic ratsnakes tend to have a similar look to them, it can be hard to tell them apart. Does your mystery snake have the "spear" shape on the top of his head?
This would suggest corn. If not, it may well be another kind of rat, or a hybrid such as a bubblegum. Either way, if it's a ratsnake, it's a good animal in my book. I used the "mutt" remark, by the way, more as a jab at all the purists that get a little bent out of shape every time we even TALK about hybrids.
Enjoy your new snake. Post pics if you can, maybe someone can help in the ID dept. Duffy