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Cham's ability to see silkworms?

iwana Mar 10, 2004 11:25 AM

Hi everyone,

I've recently started adding silkworms to Frasier's diet and have noticed something interesting that I thought I'd share with you all, in case you have seen the same thing in your chams.

This is actually the second time I've bought silkworms. The first time I bought them, several months ago, I ended up losing half my colony of 100 silkworms because I couldn't get Frasier to figure out how to eat them. I would put the silkworm on the screen of his cage and he would constantly miss his aim, causing the silkworm to bounce off the screen and onto the floor. He had no trouble with the hornworms, however, but at the time, I figured it was because the bloody things were so huge. LOL And the silkworms were only 1" long.

Anyway, I ended up discovering that Frasier didn't have that problem whenever I put the silkworms on the leaves. By the time I found this out, though, I was all out of silkworm chow and so the rest of my silkworms died. But at least I found out the trick to feeding them.

So, I bought another silkworm culture (only 25 this time, but of various sizes). Because there's enough chow included to grow the silkworms to full size, I let them get nice and big before feeding them to Frasier. Been putting them on the leaves of his plants, like last time, but I noticed that he still seemed to have trouble locating them.

This morning, I placed one right on his basking branch, a few inches away from him, and sat there honestly wondering if there was something wrong with Frasier's vision. He simply could not nab the worm! He kept aiming right above it with his tongue, kept getting closer and closer until his mouth was actually touching the worm, and still his tongue kept going for the area directly above the worm. After about 10 tries, he finally did get it, but I think it was more by accident by then. LOL

Anyway, I figured out that it might be the fact that the silkworms are white. I actually remember a discussion about that a while back on this forum. So I decided to try something: I took another one of the big silkworms, covered it with a thin layer of corn syrup, then crumbled some dried parsley and covered the worm with that, making it look green. Put it in front of Frasier, and his tongue aimed right for the center of the worm, nabbing the worm on the first try.

So if anyone else is having similar problems with their chams, coating the worm with something green really helps. LOL Maybe next time, I'll try some alfalfa powder from the health food store...


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Julie Williams
www.baskingwonders.com

Replies (3)

joer Mar 10, 2004 11:42 AM

Wow lol thats great i am sure alot of people have np feeding silks to thier chams. But maybe your is color blind you know. What about crikets I put mineral -all I and that is a white dust so they look all white Jade has not had a problem yet. how old is your cham?

iwana Mar 10, 2004 11:48 AM

Frasier is 4 years old. For a while, I thought maybe he had a problem with his tongue, because he also sometimes misses other insects, but seemed to happen more with the silkworms.

I've heard other people on this forum say that their chams didn't show an interest in the worms and they had also rationalized that it might be because they're white. So maybe that really is why.

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Julie Williams
www.baskingwonders.com

mhdsummers Mar 10, 2004 12:01 PM

My cham never had a problem catching silkworms. He did however become sick of them. So I tricked him into eating them. I dusted the silkworms first. Then I used a small paint brush and some diluted food coloring and painted stripes on the worms. This would excite him into eating silkworms again. I remember reading about injecting prey items with some kind of super juice using a hyperdermic needle. This seems like a pretty good idea. Silkworms seem like they would make good canidates. I never tried this but maybe others have...

I also remember once picking up a full grown silkworm that was almost dead. I was moving them to new location so some of them would coccoon. The worm broke in half. I was horrified to find it full of some kind of smaller worm. This may have been the cause for my chameleons constent problem with parasites. I stopped feeding silkworms after this. If I decide to feed silkworms again, I am going to have to get better at keeping them to prevent this type of parasite from infecting my prey items. Has anyone else seen this before?

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