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JFeul--Russian shell problem pics

noori Mar 11, 2004 07:37 PM

I live in southeastern Wisconsin... the weather is comparable to Syracuse, I think. I got my Russian from a pet store almost 4 years ago, and when I got him he had a small round scar on one of his scutes. Last year around this time the top layer of the scute began chipping off around the scar, to the point where the entire scute came off. I took him to the vet twice over this, the first time they gave me iodine to put on the exposed area and some antibiotics--one pill piece per day for ten days. The next time, after more shell had chipped off, they gave me nitrofurazone to spread on the scar and told me to give him the pill pieces for two and a half weeks. The vet also examined pieces of the shell and found bacteria on them. The shell is still chipping off but at a much slower rate.

About the pitting, the vet prodded the pits with a pick and since they are hard sections, she didn't really have any idea of how to treat it and basically told me not to worry about it (but of course I do :P). I've basically watched his shell condition deteriorate since I got him but I don't know what's causing it, since he's kept very dry and it's obviously not shell rot. The shell is also slightly discolored in some areas and did not appear to be growing between the most affected scute and the ones surrounding it. Otherwise, my tortoise is healthy. I'm not sure if it's just my vet or if there's really no way to treat this. Anyone have any ideas??
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Replies (7)

noori Mar 11, 2004 07:38 PM

the entire area of pitting is about a centimeter across.
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noori Mar 11, 2004 07:42 PM

n/p
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dragonmlv Mar 12, 2004 08:08 AM

I adopted my adult male tort from a petstore - I'm not sure where the original owner had gotten him, but I'm pretty sure it was the same petstore that they abandoned him at - he's wild caught, and he has those "pitted areas" too. Not quite as deep, but his shell has many scars and little pits. I have only had him for 4 months now, and none of his shell has chipped off - but if the chipping is related to the pits I would like to know what it is too! Let me know if you find out anything And by the way, you have a beautiful tort, I'm sorry about it's shell problems!
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1.1 Mali Uromastyx (Draco and Pumpkin)
0.1 Indian Uromastyx (Cheddar)
1.0.1 Russian Tortoise (Pookie and Kiwi)
8.8.22 Millipedes (8 different species)

Passport Mar 12, 2004 09:05 AM

And I hope his shell problem is not serious and will be nothing to worry about. I love Russians and their spunky attitudes and personalities.

EJ Mar 12, 2004 10:43 AM

First off... very nice pictures.
The first one is an extreme case of old damage from shell rot. A septic infection or some ectoparasite can cause this. As I said, it is old damage the looks completely healed. I'm curious to find out if you will see growth from the edges of the present scutes.
On the second picture, if you are talking about the rough portion in the dead center of the photo, that looks like the hatchling scute which is usually worn of in larger WC Russians. It looks perfectly normal.
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Ed
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noori Mar 12, 2004 04:24 PM

Thanks. How much more of the top shell layer do you think I can expect will flake off in the future? Every once in awhile one of the edges is peeling up and more comes off, but the majority of the chipping occurred over last summer. Is it possible that he had shell rot before I got him and it disappeared on its own? Over the years I never noticed a softness to his shell around the area of the scar (which was about half a centimeter across originally) or any smell.

I guess maybe a small part of me wants to keep my tortoise "pretty" but I'm much more relieved to know that the scarring and pitting aren't life-threatening. He is a wonderful tortoise.
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unchikun Mar 12, 2004 10:45 PM

... and that's a *precious* picture! he's lucky to have such a caring, conscientious owner.

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