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About 2 weeks ago I predicted here that the war on Iraq has not only increased the level of terror all over the world but will also carry the terror to Europe.

Now look at Spain:
If this cruelsome attack has been commited by Al Quaida then it is the bill for prime minister Aznar´s support of the U.S. in the war on Iraq.

Never again tell fairy tales here that the so-called war on terrorism makes the world a safer place.

Fight the reasons of terrorism instead of the terrorists and you will succeed! Otherwise you will just fill up the machine with petrol.

Shame on the nearsighted U.S. government who is acting like a brainless raging bull.

First, we should obviously stop hunting for terrorists. Let's leave them alone...let them do what they wish...when they wish...to whom they wish...

I agree that we should fight the reasons of terrorism...
Let's all become Muslims...
Once we're all Muslims, there will be no infidels for the terrorists to wage jihads against...and peace will obviously come to the World...
Ooh...wait...this could be a problem...
What about all of the terrorists who are not Muslims...???
Once all peaceful folks become Muslims, the non-Muslim terrorists will pick on them...

Dang...this is a lot more complicated than your well-reasoned post made me think it would be...

I've got a better idea...
Since you are such an excellent prophet, why don't you buy a bunch of lottery tickets for a bunch of different lotteries...
You're sure to win (since you're a prophet)...
So...once you win billions and billions of dollars (or Deutsche Marks), you could pay all of the terrorists to not attack us...

Be careful which end of the "brainless raging bull" you stand near...you just might get covered with "brainless raging bull****"...

First off, the war on Iraq has nothing to do with fighting terrorism but with getting hands on the oil and helping Israel to get rid of one of its enemies of which it is surrounded.
Since we are talking of Israel: This country is a telling illustration that the way you suggest to deal with terrorism does not work. You will hardly find a country all over the world that is fighting terrorism with more brutal and unforgiving methods like Israel. I think we can agree in this matter.
And where are they now? Did they succeed?
The only time when there was a glimmer of improvement visible on the horizon was when they tried to make peace with the palestinians. Sharon destroyed the tiny plant of peace then with his provocative appearence at the muslim sanctuary which induced the second intifada (spelling?)

An raging bull can not defeat malicious ants that have invested him by stomping on the anthill. This will only cause more ants to leave the anthill for an attack.

I like this comparison very much because it fits perfectly. And now please contemplate it for a while in order to find a way out of its catchy truth...

"An raging bull can not defeat malicious ants that have invested him by stomping on the anthill."

That depends on whether or not the raging bull has a pet anteater...

You use Israel as an example...
Israel is a tiny country surrounded on all sides by a bunch of fanatical Muslim fundamentalists. Suppose Israel were to "lay down its arms" and peacefully acquiesce to all of the extremist demands and whims of its neighbors...what do you suppose would happen...??? A slaughter...that's what would happen...

Hey...what's going on with Mohmar Ghadaffi these days...???
How many terrorist acts has he committed recently...???
Perhaps we should have left him alone...to murder people as he wished...???
Would Doves of Peace have worked as well with him as a couple of well-placed bombs did...???

Sometimes attempts at finding a peaceful resolution succeed...sometimes not...
When all else fails, and when you're being overrun by ants...buy an anteater...the biggest, baddest anteater that you can find...

LOL...

Just out of curiosity...do you possess a firearm...???

Such an "anteater" would surely solve the problem. But there is a slight problem: The anteater would not stop on the border to Israel.

What I mean is: Terrorism needs to be fighted with the scalpel, not with a broadsword. A broadsword does more harm on the patient than on terrorism.

We got rid of the Red Army Fraction (RAF) in Germany with the scalpel, Italy got rid of the Brigade Rosso with the scalpel, the ETA is almost defeated in Spain without bombing the entire Basque Region.

Just brains is needed in this matter and a good intelligence service. But an intelligence service like yours who wasn't able to determine whether or not Iraq has weapons of mass destruction (and if so, where they are) is not able to handle a scalpel. Thus the raging bull must do the work (of no avail, though).

To answer your question: Yes, I have firearms. I am not a pacifist. But I think I would not be stupid enough to play the raging bull (of no avail, as mentioned before) when stealth actions are more promising.

Let's assume that I agree with you that what is needed is a scalpel and not a broadsword...

Who decides what constitutes a "scalpel"...???
Who decides what constitutes a "broadsword"...???
Who decides exactly when the "scalpel" is used and when the "broadsword" is used...???

Is it YOU who decides these issues...???
Is it YOUR country that decides these issues...???

I have no problem with YOU making decisions regarding issues that affect YOU...
I have no problem with YOUR country making decisions regarding issues that affect YOUR country...

In this thread, you have already stated that the U.S. will be more of a target for terrorism because of its chosen stance against terrorism...
In this thread, you have already stated that Spain will be more of a target for terrorism because of its support of the U.S...
In this thread, you have already stated that countries such as your own will NOT be such terrorist targets because of the different ways in which these countries deal with terrorists...

So...if how the U.S. chooses to deal with terrorism and terrorists affects only the U.S. and its allies in this fight...
And does not affect you or your country...
Why do you care WHAT we do and HOW we do it...???

You answered my question about firearms ownership as follows...
"To answer your question: Yes, I have firearms. I am not a pacifist."
Many people around the World do not believe in firearm ownership...
Why is it acceptable for YOU to own firearms, when others believe that you should not...???
Why do you not listen to the people of the World who do not believe in firearm ownership...???
Why do you not destroy your firearms...???
Everyone has their own opinions and values. You choose to own firearms despite many people in the World being opposed to that.
In the same manner, you should accept that people in the World will have differing viewpoints than your own regarding the appropriate methods of dealing with terrorism.
To expect everyone in the World to conform to YOUR ideas and ideals of what IS and IS NOT acceptable, is nothing short of arrogance.

By the way, some firearm owners are pacifists, some are not. I do not make any judgement regarding your nature from the fact that you own firearms. I asked whether you owned firearms for 2 reasons:
1) I strongly suspected that you did. (Hey, perhaps I am also a "prophet"...LOL...).
2) I wanted to make a point that not everything that YOU do is acceptable to every single person around the World. Since you choose to do it anyway, I am sure that you will be able to understand why others in the World will not change what they do just because YOU say they should.

The result of the elections in Spain removed Aznars party from ruling Spain. The people in Spain presented him the bill for joining the U.S. in the fake war on terrorism. 90% of the people in Spain were opposed to the war but Aznar did it anyway. Almost 200 killed and more than 1500 badly injured persons had to pay the bill. Aznar has got the receipt today (as I predicted several days ago).

Renaissance wrote that I have already stated that countries such as my own will NOT be such terrorist targets. Where have you found these line that I have supposedly written? This is your wrong conclusion but not a statement from me. THIS TIME we haven't been the target...

He also stated that only the US and its allys will be affected from the way they deal with terrorism and terrorists.

Firstly:
Man, they haven't dealt with terrorism but have attacked a country in the Middle East without the consent of the United Nations.

Secondly:
Of course Germany and other western countries will be affected. The city with the third most Turkish inhabitants is not situated in Turkey but in Germany. It's called Berlin. We have a huge number of muslems here in Germany and significant number of them are radical islamists.
With your actions in the Middle East you fuel them with hatred and drive them in league with terrorists.
Of course, countries like US, Great Britain and Spain will be first choice targets but we will surely get our share sooner or later, thanks to the nation of the brave...

So it is not your private pleasure to shed the blood of your soldiers in Iraq (another 6 killed this weekend, does your news stations tell this to you?).

Regarding the firearms: Wrong conclusion again. I have a firearm because I am a police officer. I think you will concede that I need one. In my country (and I agree with the government) firearms are only allowed to police officers and persons who has an authorized need for it. And the regulation as to who is a person with an authorized need is very very stringent.

In conclusion, since I am so good in predicting I will make another three:

1.
Irak will become a theocracy within the next 10 years

2.
The western world will experience a huge increase of terrorism thanks to the war on Iraq

2.
The US will leave the Iraq in a similar way like it did in Vietnam

Here is what you said...
"Why do you think Turkey and Spain has been victims of the recent terrorist attacks? Why these countries and not Germany and France? Because Turkey and Spain supported Bush in this war."

So...you stated that "Turkey and Spain" have been the victims of terrorist attacks because they "supported Bush in this war"...
You also asked "Why these countries and not Germany and France?"...
The way I read this, you said that Turkey and Spain were victims of terrorist attacks because of their support for Bush...and that Germany and France were NOT victims of terrorist attacks because they DID NOT support Bush...

So...according to your "logic", Germany and France will only be the victims of terrorist attacks IF they support Bush...
Since Germany and France are extremely unlikely to support Bush, they should be safe from terrorist attacks...
If you are NOW saying that Germany and France may become the victims of terrorist attacks WHETHER THEY SUPPORT BUSH OR NOT, then I do not see how you can possibly conclude that Spain was attacked for supporting Bush...

Regarding the firearms...
See, there you go again...jumping to conclusions...
If you were a real prophet/psychic/whatever it is that you currently claim to be, you would know that I know you are a police officer...
Which brings me to my next point...

Why do the police officers in your country need to carry guns...???
Why not do as the majority of police officers do in the UK, and simply carry a truncheon...???
Hmmm...seems to me that the police officers in your country are using a broadsword, when they should really be using a scalpel...
Reminds me of your very words...
"Just brains is needed in this matter and a good intelligence service. "
Yes...I think that's it...
I think that if your country were to get itself a good intelligence service, it's policemen would not need to use broadswords (guns) and they could use scalpels (truncheons)...just like the majority of police officers do in the UK...

Dear Pot,
Thank you for your comments in this matter.
Your sincerely,
Kettle.

LOL...

LOL! Very well said.

you stoop to a level which is almost not worth to reply.

Are you lacking arguments?

I live 5 minutes from the border of a major US city. I associate with Americans daily and let me tell you this: when it comes to issues of politics and such (oh how I hate to generalize) you will not suceed in getting your point across with people like this. To them their country can and will do no wrong...ever. Trust me. I have much respect for americans and am thankful we have such a strong "neighbour" however, I have learned to avoid these kinds of conversations. I should have known better than to add my .02 here....

... I also begin to realize what you have just told me.

But there are a few exceptions, though. A few reasonable minds (when it comes to the U.S. policy) seem also to exist in this country.

You obviously KNOW that these terrorist events wouldn't be happening if we weren't fighting terrorism. You know for a fact that the attack on Spain wouldn't have happened, without this war, how? The 9/11 attack came before this war, so how do you explain that, when the war hadn't started yet? You know that we did nothing after the embassy attacks and the U.S.S. Cole attacks and yet we were attacked again. When we did nothing, why, according to your reasoning, did they attack again? Why do you think not fighting back will accomplish anything?

Why do you think the Islamic fundamentalists are attacking virtually anyone? You think it has nothing to do with their religion, and it has everything to do with us?

Why do you think they must force us to change our ways to pacify them? (Instead of them being tolerant of us.)

They are responsible for their own actions, not us! We are not responsible for anyone's actions, but our own.

Mind boggling logic you are using. Compare what you assume, and couldn't possibly know (the future), with what you do know (the present) to prove a point?

And forget about Libya, it would really be nice if they were in the same position they were before this war. This is one thing we can say, with a great deal of certainty, that this war has accomplished.

There are only 2 things we can do to attack these terrorists ideas, like you claim we should.

1)We must all become fundamentalist muslims. Remember, they will even attack other muslims that aren't fundamentalists! Why do you think they are so against education? Could it be that educated people threaten their beliefs?

2)We must not do anything that threatens their beliefs. (like modernization, education, freedom, equal rights for women, etc.) This is not an acceptable solution to me, and war is far, far more desirable than this solution is--in my opinion.

All that evil needs to flourish, is for good men to do nothing.

Rodney

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Two things are needed to fight the terrorism:

1. Change your policy
2. Go and get yourself a better intelligence service who is able to perform effective stealth actions

Why do you think Turkey and Spain has been victims of the recent terrorist attacks? Why these countries and not Germany and France?

Because Turkey and Spain supported Bush in this war. And Poland would also be a victim, but there is such a small number of arabs in this country that an attack can hardly be performed there without arousing suspicion.

Regarding Lybia you are right. You scared the hell out of Gaddhafi. But the benefit compared to the disadvantage is too little.

Two things are needed to fight the terrorism:

1. Change your policy
2. Go and get yourself a better intelligence service who is able to perform effective stealth actions

(Why do you think Turkey and Spain has been victims of the recent terrorist attacks? Why these countries and not Germany and France?)

Hmmm. Could it be that terrorists see a potential friend in Germany and France? Wonder why, lol.

Because Turkey and Spain supported Bush in this war. And Poland would also be a victim, but there is such a small number of arabs in this country that an attack can hardly be performed there without arousing suspicion.

But it only takes one terrorist to carry out an effective attack. How many terrorists were involved with the recent attack? Do you even know?

Regarding Lybia you are right. You scared the hell out of Gaddhafi. But the benefit compared to the disadvantage is too little.

Explain that! Had we done nothing, what position would "Gaddhafi" be in today? How much power would he have and what would his intentions be amidst all of the turmoil in the world as far as terrorism is concerned? Do you think he would be a "people person", lol? Doubt it. I wonder who he would be palling around with.

Meanwhile 5 persons have been arrested by the police in Spain. You see, there is more than one person needed to perform an effecting attack.

The government in Spain was in a hurry to claim that he ETA has commited the attack. Today there are elections in Spain and they want the people to believe that it was not muslim terrorists who committed the attack. Most of the Spanish people were against the war on Iraq but Aznar did it anyway.
Why do you think the Aznar government insisted until yesterday that ETA is guilty for the attack? Because Aznar will lose the elections now since it became obvious that the attack is the receipt for joining the war on Iraq.

Even Tenet, the chief of your CIA conceded that the war on terrorism has lead to a temporary weakeing of Al Quaida but lead to a strengthening of the muslim terrorism altogether.

So, is this a desireable result of your "war on terrorism?"

Please answer honestly do this question: Do you really believe you can win a war on terrorism the way your country is performing it?

Whistle when you have won it (German saying).

"Whistle when you have won it (German saying)."

So...how many times have YOU whistled...???

Just curious...

ferociously patriotic to their country, I respect that. It does make it pretty difficult to have an open discussion of this nature without tempers flaring however. It is my humble opinion (with absolutly no disrespect intended) that the american people were mislead and continue to be mislead by George W's very primative leadership style. Where is the charisma? The diplomacy?. It seems like he's really kicked up a hornets nest in the middleast and has negatively impacted a few key relationships with other countries and I can hardly blame them. I'm very proud of our Prime Minister for not supporting the war on Iraq, we beleive the war on Iraq was unjustified we arn't too "chicken" to join (as some would say). I personally feel that your billions would better be spent on your healthcare, wealthfare, scientific and environmental projects, after all thats your standard of living. I don't think the future looks to bright for the US if Bush is re-elected and continues his reckless antics. Just my .02 from the outside.

Personally, I have not seen a single post in this thread where I feel that "tempers are flaring"...
Please, if you would, point me in the direction of some of the "tempers flaring" of which you speak...

You have as much right to your opinion as everyone else participating in this thread...and I, for one, most certainly do not view your post as being in the slightest disrespectful...

I would agree that the majority of Americans are extremely patriotic...
Personally, I think this is a good thing...
In their own way, the majority of Iraqis are also patriotic...although, perhaps, fanatical may be a more appropriate word...at least in my opinion...

You think "charisma" and "diplomacy" are the most important qualities for the President of the most powerful nation in the World?
I would submit that Bill Clinton had gobs and gobs of "charisma" and "diplomacy"...
Only trouble is, these came with some rather healthy doses of "lying", "cheating" and "deceit"...
There are many qualities that are desirable in a President...and many that are not. These must be weighed.

I will not address many of the points that you made...for the simple reason that I do not feel that I am sufficiently well informed to comment. On the issue of "healthcare", however, I do have something to say. Given a choice between the Canadian system of healthcare and the U.S. system, I'd take the U.S. system any day. Personally, I consider the healthcare system in the U.S. to be far superior to the Canadian system.

Due to a lack of information I don't want to give a statement as to the superiority of the US or Canadian health system.

But I can not resist to utter my opinion to the other topic that you mentioned:

I would rather prefer a President that lied to hush up a blow-job that he has got than a President who lied to start a war that killed many innocent people.

In Europe the former incident would not have been worthwile a three lines note on the last page of the newspaper.
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2 huge problems with that argument.

1) If you believe that Bush lied about WMD's, you must also then admit that Clinton also lied, because he also said they had weapons of mass destruction. So, he lied under oath in a court of law, when he was up on charges of sexual harassment from some else, AND he lied about weapons of mass destruction also.

2) Every intelligence agency in the world said the exact same thing prior to the invasion of Iraq. Why did the French, German, Chinese, Russian, British, U.S., etc. all make this same lie when many of them were against the envasion?

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I tend to believe that Bush was wrong when he quoted what everyone else in the world was telling him, and those intelligence agencies were wrong also. I can find no evidence of a lie anywhere, just accusations from Bush haters. This allegation has been out there for many months, and no one has yet been able to prove it. Why is that? Is it because it is another false accusation, like his service in the national guard?

Clinton, on the other hand, was proven a liar while under oath in a court of law, to congress, and in an address to the nation, and he later admitted that he lied. Two entirely different situations.

Funny how one the one hand, you can claim Bush is a liar with no proof of this, and on the other hand, you can ignore Clinton's proven lie due to the subject matter of the lie.

The liberal mind is a very strange thing! Logic like that could destroy every Vulcan on Star Trek!

Rodney

I haven't said that Clinton has not lied. Of course he lied.
But he did not send thousands of human beings into demise for his lies.
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You didn't claim that Clinton didn't lie. But you basically said that you would rather have a president that lied about a blow job than one who lied to start a war. (Trying to imply that Bush lied)

I would much rather have one who has not lied at all! I thought Clinton was an O.K. president, until that lie. When I saw how easily and convincingly he lied about this, I never trusted anything he said again, and I then questioned the truth of anything he had said previously. Trust is a very important thing for a president to have. Stating that Bush lied, in order to try to discredit Bush, is just wrong. I have heard this allegation hundreds of times from Bush haters, but no one has had any proof of this.

Since there is absolutely no evidence that Bush lied, and a ton of evidence that he was repeating what virtually everyone else in the intelligence world was saying at that time, I find it very irresponsible of anyone to state that they think a know liar is better than someone who has simply had an unproven allegation made against him by his opponents.

I will trust Bush, just as much as I trusted Clinton (prior to his lie being proved) until someone can prove something. Until then, calling him a liar only shows your prejudice against him.

If I alleged that Clinton was a murderer, does that mean he is worse than Bush in your eyes? Anyone can allege anything, it means nothing (other than that the person making the allegation is probably very biased) unless it is proven. Frankly, I wouldn't mind you saying that Bush is a liar, even if it wasn't proven, as long as there was some credible evidence that suggested that it probably was true. At this point, you saying Bush lied, tells me more about you than it tells me about Bush! So please, stop saying things as if they are a fact, when the evidence shows the exact opposite is most likly true.

Rodney

H+E Stoeckl is a prophet...
A psychic...
He knows all and sees all...

He lives in a country that is able to use a "scalpel" and not a "broadsword", because of that country's "brains and a good intelligence service"...

How come he with his psychic powers, and his country with their brains and good intelligence service, can't dig up a single shred of evidence that Bush lied...???

LMAO...

Still whistling...

but his country's intelligence service came to the conclusion, as ours did--that Iraq had WMDs. And now he is criticizing our president, and calling him a liar, for saying the very same thing. Maybe he sould be criticizing his country for lying about Iraq's WMDs.

Rodney

"Personally, I have not seen a single post in this thread where I feel that "tempers are flaring"..."

Well perhaps I misjudged your replies to Hermann then. The excess of sarcasm in your replies seemed a bit defensive but I suppose your right, that doesn't mean "tempers are flaring". Perhaps I should have said "defensive to the point of being closed-minded" instead.

"I would agree that the majority of Americans are extremely patriotic...
Personally, I think this is a good thing...
In their own way, the majority of Iraqis are also patriotic...although, perhaps, fanatical may be a more appropriate word...at least in my opinion... "

Being patriotic is indeed a good thing, but you have to keep an open mind as well. Have you ever been to Iraq? Spoken with Iraqis on this subject? Perhaps your people are viewed as fanatical over there, after all YOUR the occupying power in THEIR country. I don't know if they think this but I wouldn't doubt it given the situation.

"You think "charisma" and "diplomacy" are the most important qualities for the President of the most powerful nation in the World?"

What makes you the most powerful nation in the world? Certainly not your standing army. Several countries have the capability to destroy modern society as we know it with nuclear weapons including France, England and China. In fact I would go so far as to say that China is in fact the most powerful country in the world. It would take 256 nukes to completely destroy Chinas economy and infrastructure beyond recovery. 115 would knock the states out and unfortunately only 17 would demolish my country . (No I did not make these numbers up)

"I would submit that Bill Clinton had gobs and gobs of "charisma" and "diplomacy"...
Only trouble is, these came with some rather healthy doses of "lying", "cheating" and "deceit"...
There are many qualities that are desirable in a President...and many that are not. These must be weighed."

All politicians lie to and decieve their people. Cheating? Who cares about that? We're talking about leading a country here, the two have nothing to do with eachother.

"I will not address many of the points that you made...for the simple reason that I do not feel that I am sufficiently well informed to comment. On the issue of "healthcare", however, I do have something to say. Given a choice between the Canadian system of healthcare and the U.S. system, I'd take the U.S. system any day. Personally, I consider the healthcare system in the U.S. to be far superior to the Canadian system."

We have one of the best healthcare systems in the world, perhaps you shouldn't have commented on that either since you are obviously not sufficiantly informed on it.
Anyhow, I think being humble is the best way to be and you guys are far from that. You are hated by people all over the world, ever wonder why? When I travel I always carry a backpack with a huge maple leaf on it so that nobody mistakes me for an American. Your patriotic in your backyard, we're patriotic all over the world....and we're liked.

Sure..."defensive to the point of being closed-minded" would probably be an appropriate comment from someone as obviously open-minded as yourself...
Funny...first my "temper is flaring"...then I have an "excess of sarcasm"...now I'm "closed-minded"...
I can only hope to become as open-minded as you...
LMAO...

Who defined the "most powerful nation in the World" as being the one with the largest army...???
Certainly not me...
But there you go, again, with your open-mindedness...just presuming to know what I am referring to...
The "power" of a nation has to do with many things...the military is certainly one of these things...as are industrial base...financial capability...influence on World policies...etc., etc., etc...
Hey, if you want to define the "most powerful nation in the World" in simplistic terms of "size of military" or "how many nukes it would take to destroy the country" that's up to you...
I certainly wouldn't...

"All politicians lie to and deceive their people."
WOW...!!!
More open-mindedness...???
Hey...I can certainly learn from you...

"Cheating? Who cares about that?"
So...you don't feel that a President doing "things" with an intern in the White House is something to care about...???
Hey...must be great being Prime Minister up in Canada...
All the totty you can get...
In your official offices...
On the taxpayers dime...
And the beauty of it is...NO ONE CARES...!!!

"We have one of the best healthcare systems in the world"
Hello...McFly...
Socialized medicine...
Hospitals and wards closing all over...
Unbelievable as it may be to you (in all your open-mindedness), I have spent considerable amounts of time living in countries with socialized medicine and in countries with privatized medicine...
Guess what...socialized medicine sucks...
Want to know how many Canadian friends I have who live in the States and who wouldn't use the free healthcare system in Canada for getting their toenails clipped...???
Hey...wander around some of your local hospitals one day and check out the closed wards...
What is a "local hospital" to the average Canadian citizen...???
One within a thousand miles...???
LOL...

Yep..."patriotic" and "Canada"...those are a couple of words that I always think of in the same sentence...
How's Quebec these days...???
Still "patriotically" trying to secede...???
How about your currency...???
Nothing quite says "patriotism" like putting the picture of ANOTHER country's reigning monarch on YOUR country's currency...
LMAO...

I think you deserve the same letter as H+E Stoeckl...

Dear Pot,
Thank you for your comments.
Yours,
Kettle.

nice post, I guess I asked for it. I still would rather live here and I will still make it known that I am not American when I travel because I wouldn't want people to have pre-concieved notions about me. You have many problems within your country that need attention but I guess thats your problem. We'll have to agree to disagree I suppose. Cheers.

BTW we DO in fact have better tasting beer HAHA

You said you don't want people to judge you based upon your country, but look at how you are judging the rest of us. You are just as bad as those Americans who give us a bad name. I don't really care about which country is better than which. I am an American and I will be marrying a Canadian in 2 years. You need to stop looking judging others based upon your misconceptions of what "EVERY AMERICAN" is like, lest you be judged yourself. Maybe we shouldn't be so proud, but I've been to Canada, and you shouldn't be either.

Clinton was a damn good president. His private life is his own, he does *not* need to disclose that to an entire nation.
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