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My new Yellow X Green 'conda cross!! Link w/ pics.

cnidaria Mar 11, 2004 11:51 PM

Hi all-

Well, I have wanted one of these for some time, and I finally got one in the mail today He is about 6' and is a late '02. Seems to have a nice temperment as well...made no effort to strike when I moved him to add a water basin! Hopefully, he'll stay calm. I LOVE this snake. Please check out the pics and let me know what you think. Sorry for the really crappy images, but I have a OLD camera. You get the idea though. His appearance is so interesting, having inherited traits from both his father (a green), and his mother (a yellow). Note the obvious green pattern, the very prominent yellow head, and a body color that is a cross between the two. it will be interesting to see how this one's colors change as he grows! Anyway, enjoy, and let me know what ya think.

Brian

Replies (17)

cnidaria Mar 11, 2004 11:52 PM

Here's a closer pic of the head so you can see how typically "yellow" it is!

Brian

MR_ANACONDA28 Mar 12, 2004 12:06 AM

That is a real nice snake. Keep us updated with pix. I would realy be interested to see if there will be a size diferance. Will it take more after a yellow or a green in size.

cnidaria Mar 12, 2004 12:11 AM

Thanks for the compliment!

I assume that since both the male green and the female yellow get about the same size, that it would balance out somewhere around 10' or so. However, taking into consideration that yellow males "usually" stay smaller that either the female yellows or both greens, this might bring his size down to around 8' or so. Just a guess, but who knows, since genetics of size are difficult to determine with a cross such as this.

Brian

cnidaria Mar 12, 2004 12:14 AM

I just figured that since he is a male, he would take on an average size of the males of both species, but I know it is not as simple as that! I hope I am right, though, and he stays around 8' or so!

Brian

MR_ANACONDA28 Mar 12, 2004 12:19 AM

Thats why I say it will be cool to see exactly how size is affected. Did you buy it from the classifieds here on Kingsnake? Eather way not much differace between 8 and 10 foot.

cnidaria Mar 12, 2004 12:32 AM

Yeah, I called the guy from the Kingsnake classifieds, and he still had a male, so I decided to get him! I deffinately wanted a male, so as not to worry about a "room-filling" snake. The snake is great, and Neil was a pleasure to do business with!

You are right, no big difference between 8' and 10', but it would still be interesting to see if the male yellow size genetics bump down the size of this animal.

Brian

Brian

barnaby Mar 12, 2004 09:03 AM

I got a pair from Neil too. They are awsome snakes, but mine are as nasty as they come, but the beauty of them makes up for thier attitude problems. Goodluck with yours and keep us updated
Mike

cnidaria Mar 12, 2004 11:41 AM

How are they nasty? Do they constantly bite, or just act defensive? Just curious, as this is my only snake at the moment, and being able to handle him is important to me. Were your's nasty when you got them? Do they strike when you walk by the cage? Just curious.

thanks,
Brian

cnidaria Mar 12, 2004 11:42 AM

Also, are they both like that, or is one easier than the other?

thanks,
Brian

barnaby Mar 12, 2004 06:11 PM

They are both not handled easily. They were like that when I got them too. When I do handle them I have to grab them behind the head and if I let go, the will bite without hesitation. They struck at the glass a few times, but havent done that in a while. Im just looking to breed them in the future and hopefully get some nice babies.

Can you handle yours without problems?
thanks
Mike

cnidaria Mar 12, 2004 06:23 PM

Well, I have now picked him up and moved him about 4 times, just from his cage to a rubbermaid tub while I worked on his cage. I got him with the hook, and then placed him in my hands. Thus far, he has not offered to bite, or show any agression, but I have probably only had him in my hands for a total of a minute since I got him. Not enough time to see his true nature. Nevertheless, I remain hopeful since I just got him, and he is probably stressed from the move. As such, he could have bitten the s$*t out of me already just touching him, but has not...yet. He seems more curious than defensive. Wish me luck!

Brian

cnidaria Mar 15, 2004 11:10 PM

Well, I fed him yesterday...offered a FT large rat, and no response...then all the sudden, he was wrapped around it and the newspaper!! I have NEVER seen any snake move so fast, and I have kept many snakes! He almost bumped the forceps out of my hand, and shook an entire 4' vision cage! Anacondas are certainly in a league of their own...they continue to impress me with a strength matched by none. Took him out today for his forst 10 minute handling session, and he showed now agression at all! I am stoked by this!! Still, I accept the generally unpredictable nature of anacondas, even though I have yet to own an agressive one (have had 5 now). I will update as he grows!

Brian

MR_ANACONDA28 Mar 16, 2004 12:07 AM

Told ya condas were strong, As for unpredictable...well when you learn YOUR snake and learn its behavior it is no longer unpredictable. Do us a favor and break out the digi-cam and post some pix.

barnaby Mar 16, 2004 07:53 AM

I am soooo jealous that you can handle yours. I agree with the feeding thing, I have an 11 ft green and she is nasty but during feeding time she just takes it and wraps around it gently. the hybrids try to hit through the food. Definatly take more pics.
Mike

cnidaria Mar 16, 2004 09:45 PM

Hi guys-

Thanks for the support. Yeah, I have had annies before, but it never stops amazing me how powerful they are for their size. Barnaby, I guess I just lucked out with him...I seem to have an uncanny way of owning supposed "demonic" species, and mine are totally calm and completely handleable. The list if such animals is: 2 juvi yellow anacondas, 1 juvi green anaconda, 1 9' green anaconda, 3 whitelip pythons, 1 green tree python, 1 emerald tree boa, 1 barneck scrub python, 1 red blood python, and even a young Mollucan python! Each of the above behaved very atypical for the species, hanging around my shoulders and showing no agression at all. I hope the luck lasts, but again, all of these animals can be worked with to a degree. Have you tried to bust out the gloves and gently work with them? Maybe you have, as I know some animals never really calm down, but I have found with CB, that 9 times out of 10, they have just not been exposed to handling, and require work. Anyhow, I think this week I will get some pics of me holding the "monster."

Brian

cnidaria Mar 16, 2004 09:50 PM

BTW, the point of the above rant is to voice my opinion that although you can make blanketed generalizations about a species, each individual is different, and ANY species can be tame with the right genetics/handling. I simply don't believe it when people say "that type of snake never tames, don't even bother trying." Problem is, you need to loose some blood to do it sometimes, and I am no brave man when it comes to being bitten! I even had super tame radiated ratsnakes, if you can believe it, a real mellow WC cribo, which are usually psycho...even a tame Amazon Tree Boa! I am sure I could think of others, but it just supports my point that "tameness" should be based on the animal, not the species.

Brian

dfr Mar 16, 2004 01:26 PM

` I take most of my indoor pix of my Boids with flash ( hint ). None of them react to it at all, even while eating, and mating, they just don't seem to mind. Also, outdoors, I use flash to fill in the shadow areas on pix at 15 feet, or less.
` I'm looking forward to seeing more pix of your Anaconda.
`

`This is one of a dozen shot while he was being fed. Shot with two strobes! He didn't care.

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