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WTF Wounded - Any Ideas?

dax628 Mar 13, 2004 08:13 PM

My daughter got a White's Tree Frog about one week ago. He has a "tear" on his underside, as well as a bulge on his left front leg. Please see image - caution: it's kinda hard to look at - and let me know if anyone has had something like this before. Second picture will be posted in a separate post.

In addition to that, he's (or she's) developed white spots on his/her back - it shows up green in the picture, but they're white.

We don't have a veterinarian in our town that can take care of frogs, and the local pet store where she bought her frog told her to put Neosporin on it.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
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Replies (12)

dax628 Mar 13, 2004 08:14 PM

Here's the photo of his back with the spots.
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anemone Mar 13, 2004 09:27 PM

The White's Tree Frog that I had just had(my story is below a few topics) also had those spots on his back, exact ones. I was told it was his color changing to the green he's suposse to be. They actually changed in sizes within days, does yours? When my frog turned all green one day the spots were no longer there.. I'm not really sure what it is though.

What's wrong with your frogs left arm? It looks large and quite different than the other 3.. has he been eating or anything? I wouldn't put Neospron on it! Would that be putting chemicals on a frogs skin?! I have never heard of this. It looks as if he has injuried him and he's got a big gasp on his stomach.

angelawina Mar 13, 2004 10:50 PM

OMG. You need to get that frog to a vet, or take it back!!! The arm looks really swollen, and I am assuming it is really infected. Put it on paper towels in its cage, and make sure that the temps are good. neosporin does WONDERS, believe it or not. Also, the spots are probably nothing. My red eyes all have spots kind a like that, and almost all the green tfs I have had have spots like that. the spot color is actually the normal color of your frog. if you put the frog under direct light, it should change colors.
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dax628 Mar 14, 2004 08:17 AM

After your posts, I'm not nearly as worried about the spots as I am about the gash and, yes, the swollen front left leg. The nearest vet is 40 miles from us, but my husband can most likely take my daughter and her frog to see her early this week.

RyanD Mar 14, 2004 08:39 AM

I don't know if when you take it back, they will give you a new one, they will probably just throw it away if its that bad. I would maybe tell them or show them whats up with it and tell them to give you a new one, and you'll see if you can get the one with the injury back to normal. Know what I mean?

I have to go but will be posting what my dad said. My dad will ask the herp/exotic vet he works with what he thinks. Good luck.
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RyanD Mar 14, 2004 02:14 PM

You NEED to have a vet look at it. Even a non-herp vet can look at some books and give you something. You NEED to change the water in the bowl twice a day and keep it CLEAN!! It very important that everything is clean to prevent infection. How active is he? Whats the setup? (I have a bad memery, you might have already metioned this) I personally wouldn't take him back to the perstore unless the store is very very good. They will probably just get rid of the frog. Did you get it like this? Asl the vet about something with cortizone. Thats not a defenite thing, but you should ask.
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frog429 Mar 15, 2004 12:18 PM

Ryan D.. good advice, but one thing.. you don't just THROW an animal away.. no matter how sick it is.. you try to help it get better, or euthanise it.. you don't just "throw" it away..its not a toy, or a peice of paper or cardboard... I understand you meant well, but that is just horrible! Yikes.. poor little guy.. If your father is a vet, then you should maybe pay more attention to the work he does, I assure you he wouldn't suggest "throwing" an animal away.

Frog429

dax628 Mar 15, 2004 03:34 PM

I'm sure he didn't mean that either he or his dad would throw the frog away - I understand him to mean that the pet store might just throw it away.

I agree - it's more humane to euthanize it than to just throw it out to die a slow, miserable death. Accidents happen to all kinds of animals, but if we can prevent its suffering, then that's our moral responsibility.

frog429 Mar 15, 2004 04:14 PM

Yes, I apologize for getting all "hot under the collar". I just can't fathom the idea of any animal or child..or human for that matter, suffering needlessly. I'm sure that a vet wouldn't throw the frog away.. I totally misunderstood.

thanks

Frog429

DeWhit Mar 14, 2004 09:47 AM

Do not put Neosporin on that wound. Just as it is not meant for open wounds on humans, it should not be used on wounds that extensive on animals without a recommendation from a vet who has seen the wound first hand. Both the arm and the spots are related to the wound, and correct care needs to be given if you want to give the frog a decent shot. First of all, prepare a sterile hospital tank, with a sterile water dish (of course with treated water) and a paper towel bottom. Keep the towels moist, but far from sopping wet. I would also put in a few clean clippings from and artificial plant or some other suitable hide spot that can be removed and cleaned. This tank needs to be kept as immaculate as possible, so change the towels at least once a day, and immediately when soiled. Place it in a warm area of your house, but resist the urge to place it on a heating pad or some other device. Keep it quiet, and try not to disturb it too much. You need to contact a vet who is willing to work with you to possibly prescribe some antibiotics, if the arm is not broken, the swelling is due to infection. Most vets who have never treated an amphib or herp before still love the opportunity to learn, and you should be able to find someone who will work with you. Steer clear of anyone who suggests "lancing" the leg, force feeding at this point, or force feeding water with a syringe. I suggest making that trip as soon as possible. The spots that you see can also be linked directly with the frogs health, if they spread out or your frog develops an all over mottled color, then you have a whole new set of issues to deal with. I do wish you luck, and would love to be kept updated on your frogs progress. Just remember that everything you hear, from pet stores and even vets, is far from gospel, and you are bound to hear some crazy stuff, such as putting Neosporin on a wound that extensive without consulting a vet first. Antibacterial ointment can be used on amphibs, as long as it is the regular, non-pain relieving type. But some common sense should also be used, which you have obviously since you questioned it when the pet store recommended it. Good luck to you both.
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dax628 Mar 14, 2004 05:30 PM

Thank you for your post - very thorough - I'll pass the information on to my daughter. She's 18, and she can and will do the things you suggest. We're planning a trip to a vet tomorrow - even though it's 40 miles away.

I appreciate everyone's responses and will update you all as soon as I know something.

Thanks again, all of you.

dax628 Mar 16, 2004 12:36 PM

My daughter got the frog to the vet this morning. The vet stitched him up a bit and gave her some topical medicine to put on the wound.

Now that they're back home, my husband says it looks like it's dead. It's not moving. I'll have to wait until I get home to see it for myself. I told him he should at least be able to see him breathing - hopefully he's just recovering from the treatment.

I do appreciate all of your input - I'll let you know how it all comes out.

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