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Polypedates?-ID help

juyeda Jun 11, 2003 03:45 PM

I just bought this frog from some guy in portland, he referred to it as a "piece of sh*t frog". He had it in a tank with a bunch of forest chameleons several times larger than it and running around it, likely scaring it to death. I feel bad about supporting his neglect, although he gave it to me for only $5. It is clearly in the family rhacophoridae family, but I don't know the species and would like to know ASAP so I can set up the tank with the proper temperature. As of right now I'm leaning toward Polypedates leucomystax.


Replies (8)

crestedgecko86 Jun 11, 2003 04:10 PM

looks kinda like cuban tree frog

Henry Capobianco Jun 11, 2003 05:29 PM

I think you're on the right track -- those toes sure look like rhacophoridae. But I don't know this color. Coloring is identical to mature Leptopelis vermiculatus. Good luck. Wish I coould have been more helpful.

Henry

amyjk Jun 11, 2003 07:26 PM

Looks like a Cuban to me too.......

Derek Benson Jun 11, 2003 09:22 PM

Pretty sure Cubans have vertical pupils and not lateral folds. It looks like an Asian species.
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juyeda Jun 11, 2003 11:11 PM

Its skin is too smooth to be a cuban and it is not nearly as robust. Furthermore, the sacral humps are very prominant, like most rhacophorids and the head is more flattened. Cubans do have horizontal pupils though. It seems to be able to change its color at will. From very light brown almost to cream colored to the dark color of the photographs I took, depending on mood and lighting. I'm pretty sure that it's a polypedates, but I have no idea how similar other species are to leucomystax. I've found some pics on the web that look almost identical to this frog, and others that don't look like it at all. Variable little suckers aren't they!

Becki Jun 12, 2003 09:14 PM

I believe you are right on with the leucomystax. I have a polypedates colletti which I had trouble identifying as well and at first thought her to be a leuc myself. Upon researching them I found they are able to be kept similiar to White's TF, a wee bit higher humidity. I keep her in a 29T, 82 degrees at basking point, 70-80% humidity, mid 70's night tempsnd she is thriving. I've included a pic for you to see how closely they resmeble one another. You may also want to contact Dave @ whitestreefrog@aol.com as he usedd to keep leucs. Hope this helps a bit.
You can also go to http://www.thefrog.org/becki/kaia2.jpg to see another photo of Kaia.
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Happy Frogging!!!

~Becki~

nygaboon Jun 12, 2003 10:51 AM

It looks to me like a "gold tree frog" at least thats what they call them in NY. I have two and I have yet to properly identify them. They change color from dark brown to bright bronze/gold depending on their surroundings and are very secretive. This guy is going to need special care if he is to thrive. I keep mine in ten gallon terrariums (one in each) with plent of cover and high humidity 80% or so. I have them on a 12 hour daylight/12 hour complete darkness cycle with the temperature around 78 degrees day and 68-70 at night. The only time I ever see them is a night, usually around 4 am or so. Of the original three I had two survive(Going on a year or so now). They only feed in complete darkness and they like to soak. I give my frogs small water bowls in addition to several mistings daily. I use small bowls because they are easily to cover and these guys love cover. Hope this helps and best of luck.

Janmarie Jun 12, 2003 03:58 PM

It looks alot like my Asian Foamnest Treefrogs(Polypedates leucomystax). Yours looks to have some scaring on his back that effects the look of its markings. Seen Here:
http://gto.ncsa.uiuc.edu/pingleto/frogpix/frogpix1.htm or http://www.reptilis.org/polypedates.htm
Another foamnest(Chiromantis xerampelina) which come from Kenya can be seen here:
http://www.bushveld.co.za/foam-nest-frog.htm or here: http://www.calacademy.org/research/herpetology/frogs/list10.html

These frogs have alot of simularities. Please check them out!

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