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Can you feed adult horned frogs small mice and fish?
what would you feed a 2-3 inch horned frog?
any advice and websites are appreciated.
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

of course you can feed your packman when in his adult stage pinkies and pending on what size he is you can feed him fuzzies to hoppers, remember you shouldn't feed your packman 50% more than the size of you packman, which means mice should be half the packmans size. also when packmans are from the 2-3 inch. lengh feed them crickets and small guppies and gold fish remember gold fish and guppies carry alot of parresites so please be carefull in where you decide to purchase them from! remember the 50% rule to its the same for fish. Anouther good way is simply all natural earth worms right from your backyard, please make sure that there are no chemicals or fertalizers or any of the bad stuff for frog, earthworms are a goos way to bulk up your frog to.

Earthworms? are they nutrional enough? where can i order them online? how do you gutload them?

also
can i feed mealies and supers?
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

Mice and fish are not at all good for your frog. They are so high in fat. It can lead to blindness and premature death. Earthworms are ok. But be sure, as he said, that there are no fertilizers or anything involved. Maybe you sould purchase earthworms to be sure. Nightcrawlers, crickets, and hissing roaches are also good.
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CokeOfMan

if you want to put some bulk on your frog than earthworms are perfect, i suggest just going outside at night with a flashlight and shine it on the ground and when you see the worms grab them and pull them out of their holes. they alsways come up at night! Also yes rodents and fish are indeed high in fat, but horned frogs do need some of the vitemins that rodents carry and you should at least mybe once every year or so give him, when he is adult size a nice adult rodent of again the appropiet size!!! horned frogs can't live thier lives just on insects its a fact! you need to change their diets every once in a wile, pinkies are good to , but they do not carry the proper vitemins that h-frogs need, so wait untill he is a adult and can feed in fuzzies or hoppers, i do suggest live bought rodents because frozen again lack proper vitemins.

also, you do not need to gut load wild caught earth worms i believe that i mentioned that in my first post, they are indded from the wild and all ready have proper nutrients in them that horned frogs need, remember an animals in in the wild are used to getting their own nutrients because its their nature to do so , and they know how

i can't dig up the earthworms around my house because everything in the wild in the DC area has some degree of pesticides/toxins in them. Do you know of any places where i could get them online? Are mealies and supers ok for feeding?
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

Mealies and Earthworms should be minimized. Sure, they can be fed, but not as much as crickets. These worms can bite back, so you might want to smash their heads first. Maybe Walmart has some? I heard som of those "Marts" had worms. Check prvious threds and u'll maybe find it.

Good Luck!
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CokeOfMan

mealies and supers you mean?
or mealies and earth worms?
also have you ever seen a mealie or super bit anything?
if not where did you hear that?
If i get a 2" frog what size crickets will it be eating (answer in inches please)? how many? how often?
what is your feeding schedule for your horned frogs?
also are pothos and philodendrens poisonous?
what should i use to line the bottom of the water bowl to prevent slippage?
what substrate is better, bed a beast or repti bark or eco earth?

sorry about the questions i have read care sheats i just want some personal care habits of other people.
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

I meant Melies and Supers. I've heard for example on thjese forums. And they contain more fat and chiton. Chiton can build up in your frog, and it's harder to digest. Just telling you what I've heard and read.
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CokeOfMan

Do not feed your packmans mealies because they are now noted to have eaten their way out of herps!! its a fact if u feed them mealies make shure that u chop off their heads first. or that they are chewed and not just swallowed. also i use photodendron in my tank so it seems to be all right. any fish stor will carry night crwers for you also.

thanks for the info about the philodendrens and where to get earthworms. But FYI mealies can't eat their way out of herps.
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

I was surprised to when i found out about what mealies can do to herps but its true, they are herp killers! My cousin breeds boas, boens, moniters, and much much more types of other snakes and when i told him that i was feeding my herps mealies he said to stop right away or to make shure that my herps were chewing the mealies befor ingesting because mealworms when swallowed live will indeed try and eat their way out of herps!! it is indeed a fact

1-Do you have ANY proof whatsoever? besides what your cousin says?
2-HUNDREDS of leo breeders feed an ALL mealworm diet AND HAVE NEVER had a mealie eat its way out of the leo
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

I feed both my frogs an alternating diet of super worms & nightcrawlers. You can buy nightcrawlers at Walmart. You don't have to smash the heads of superwoms before feeding them to your frog, they're fine. EcoEarth/Bed-a-beast are great substrates. I don't line my water dish with anything. It's a bit larger than the frog & not deeper than the frog, so there's no need to line it or worry about drowning. I got it at Petsmart. It's a wide, shallow bowl with blue inside & grey outside. Make sure to only use dechlorinated water.
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i am not shure which issue i saw, but in one of the issues in "Reptiles" had an article about how mealies can harm herps. Now you sound a little upset about what i just told you about what i heard, so im guessing that you feed your packman alot of mealies. don't worry because i did the same thing but i didn't feed my packman alot. i feed him a couple of live mealies every 3 weeks without smashing their heads in and when i heard about what i just told you, i stopped feeding him mealies, also mealies are very high in fat so feed them sparingly.

N/P
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CokeOfMan

You have at least one wrong piece of information in every one of your posts. The main reason not to feed mealworms in the high phosphorus to calcium ratio (which is not good) and the chiton contained in the outside. They are not easily dusted either. As for Reptiles, the magazine suggested that it was possible, but unlikely, as I remember seeing it. And it was with chameleons, not frogs. Mice are not needed to make your frog healthy, nor are fish. You really need to think before giving out so much wrong information. People are looking for help, not solutions that will make their problems worse.
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thanks for responding. I was pretty sure i was right.

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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)