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Bacchus is too much lizard for me

lucille Mar 15, 2004 05:37 PM

I am going to sell him and buy a bearded dragon.
I appreciate all of the help and advice I have received here, y'all are terrific. I am going over to the Classified Forum and see if'n I can find Bacchus a good home.
Thank you

Replies (25)

pgross8245 Mar 16, 2004 07:08 AM

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you just buy him on Saturday, March 13????

Bodhisdad Mar 16, 2004 07:53 AM

Most here are probably thinking the same thoughts as you. Another impulse buy, where in all sadness the animal was probably better off at the pet store. Maybe a better home will be found but in all reality probably not. Better off not even thinking about it. Clint

pgross8245 Mar 16, 2004 08:16 AM

Hey Clint...
I can't fathom that you can buy an animal and 48 hours later decide you don't want it. From one of the original posts I gather it was not a tiny baby as it was referred to as obese. We can only hope poor Bacchus finds a permanent home with love and proper care. This kind of stuff makes me angry. Take care.

Pam

bmendyk Mar 16, 2004 09:22 AM

I once had a baby, but I got sick of all of its crying and how dependent it was on me, so I gave it away a couple days later.. I just couldn't handle it. It was too much for me...... you understand right?

lol

bm
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louiejames Mar 16, 2004 01:02 PM

np

bmendyk Mar 16, 2004 02:12 PM

I didn't mean to offend anybody by it. However I guess they are similar in the fact that you shouldn't just go out and purchase/have either one spontaneously without doing your homework... Obviously a child and pet lizard are two totally different responsiblities with one being much more demanding, but you can see what I mean. I see your arguement, and I understand where you're coming from, just trying to lighten up these pages a little. smile. it as merely a joke.

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louiejames Mar 16, 2004 04:18 PM

I was hoping for a "more important".

sumherper Mar 20, 2004 07:45 PM

Whos to say whats MORE important? Life is life, and responsibility is responsibility, no matter how you look at it.

louiejames Mar 27, 2004 03:56 PM

np

kit1970 Mar 16, 2004 08:34 AM

Ten years I've heard this statement from all the people who didn't take the effort to research their animal before they got it. I'm sorry, but as someone who has spent allot of time and effort providing homes for wayward reptiles that have been dumped by their owners, these are the comments I hear all too often. "That thing grew too big." "It eats too much." "My Husband/Wife doesn't like it." etc. etc.
Do you know how difficult it is to find a home for a Savannah Monitor? They're cheap and easy to come by, as a result sometimes you can't even give them away.
Why are you doing this to your pet?
For heaven's sake BE ACCOUNTABLE for this animal that did not have a choice in who took it from the Pet Store, or where ever you got it from.
"Bucchus is too much lizard for me, so I'll get Bearded Dragons instead" is a statement being made by someone that is not TAKING RESPONSIBILITY for their animal. You have a choice, but your monitor doesn't.
It isn't my intention to make this sound like an attack, but I am making a request that you consider providing for your monitor properly instead of making it someone else's problem.
I also recommend that you seriously consider your choice in Bearded Dragons, their diet is not simple, their equipment needs are a bit more demanding than what is necessary for a monitor. Yes, they are smaller, but can be even more demanding of your time. Think about that very carefully before you go running out to buy one.

-Kit

lucille Mar 16, 2004 12:10 PM

It means y'all care. Yes, it was an impulse buy and not a good one, I felt sorry for the lizard. I was given a reference sheet by the store saying it could live in a 55 gallon tank, which I now know it not the case.
Please feel free to say whatever hurtful phrases come to your mind, I probably deserve them.

louiejames Mar 16, 2004 12:51 PM

That's the most mature response I've ever heard on this forum. Best of luck with your new herp.

Lou~

zoodude Mar 16, 2004 12:54 PM

>>That's the most mature response I've ever heard on this forum. Best of luck with your new herp.
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>>Lou~
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Zoodude

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zoodude Mar 16, 2004 12:58 PM

Oops. hit the return key to soon.

What I was about to say is:

I don't see anyone stepping up to help out this misguided individual. She obviously made a mistake, recognized it, and admitted it. Yet instead of helpful advice, she gets flamed.
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Zoodude

"Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't after me."

Bodhisdad Mar 16, 2004 02:59 PM

Advice was offered all weekend to her, which people obviously took time for. Aparently the petstore involved misinformed her, either way one should not buy a critter as demanding as a herp prior to doing a little research. And your right, she handled the criticism very well. Shows alot of character, but no one said anything too out of line. Clint

zoodude Mar 16, 2004 08:56 PM

not particularly helpful either.
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Zoodude

"Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't after me."

ral Mar 16, 2004 09:04 PM

It was helpful enough. To the point that it drove her to make the right decision.

P.S. You should give credit to Cobain for your signature quote.

zoodude Mar 16, 2004 09:56 PM

I don't know. Was it the right decision to give up so quickly? Maybe she should be encouraged to deal with it, and keep it. I mean, she made a impulse related mistake, but does that negate the responsibility? And should she be "allowed" to give up just as impulsively? Maybe if an effort was made beyond a couple of days, then she would grow to appreciate her new pet. Besides, savs aren't the hardest animals to care for (compared to some other monitors), and they can be terribly rewarding.

I need to go back and read some of the other posts before I say much more...

Did Kurdt really say that first?
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Zoodude

"Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't after me."

ral Mar 16, 2004 10:26 PM

Well if you can help her, go ahead and do it.

BTW I don't know if Kurt came up with that first but I'm sure as hell that you got it from him.

zoodude Mar 17, 2004 08:24 AM

say it. What he said was, "Just because YOU'RE paranoid, don't mean they're not after you,"Territorial Pissings, Nevermind) but now you've ruined it for me.

>>Well if you can help her, go ahead and do it.
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>>BTW I don't know if Kurt came up with that first but I'm sure as hell that you got it from him.
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Zoodude

"Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't after me."

ral Mar 17, 2004 10:23 AM

Haha no $hit

pgross8245 Mar 17, 2004 07:49 AM

The reason I was upset was the fact that this is an adult woman who impulsively purchased a 2 1/2 foot monitor. Even the newest owner of reptiles would have to know that it could not be kept in a 55 gallon tank. There was always the option to ask to have the animal put on hold and then do some preliminary research to see if this was an animal that she could properly care for. I understand how people can get caught up in the purchase of a baby animal because the reality of the adult size is not immediately apparent, but a 2 1/2 foot monitor??? Yes, I agree that she admitted her mistake and will try to find Bacchus a good home. How many Savs are in the various rescues waiting for that same good home?
While I am on this topic, how come the animals desireability as a pet or breeder is so closely matched with the initial price of the animal? Does the fact that the Savs are so cheap make their lives any less valuable? I'm sure if the rescues had lacies, prasinus, etc. those wouldn't last a minute in rescue, but the Savs just sit, and the rescues are innundated with them.
Back to the original topic, the thing that upsets everyone the most is the impulsivity. Everyone's lives changes and sometimes people have to rehome an animal for one reason or another. Breeders have to rehome animals all the time in order to try to produce the best quality babies. This is completely understandable.
It all comes down to education and research. If everyone would try to do a little before bringing an animal home, there would be fewer animals in rescues.
Lucille, I wish you the best and hope you are successful in rehoming Bacchus.

Pam

kit1970 Mar 16, 2004 01:48 PM

Lucille,

Speaking for myself, it was not my intention to cause you pain, if my previous post caused you to hurt, I apologize.

In the here and now your Savannah needs a new home.
If you desire, you can e-mail me at christian1970@mac.com and let's see if we can find a solution for your pet.

Take Care,

-Kit

zoodude Mar 16, 2004 09:00 PM

>>Lucille,
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>>Speaking for myself, it was not my intention to cause you pain, if my previous post caused you to hurt, I apologize.
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>>In the here and now your Savannah needs a new home.
>>If you desire, you can e-mail me at christian1970@mac.com and let's see if we can find a solution for your pet.
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>>Take Care,
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>>-Kit

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FR Mar 16, 2004 05:07 PM

For realizing that this lizard was more work then you were ready for and were caring enough to try to find it a good home. Congratulations, I wish there were more like you. FR

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