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Why are pastel females more expensive than males when you could buy a male for a thousand dollars cheaper and breed him to five different girl normales. If he breeds to five girls and each girl has Lets say 4 eggs then there should be 2 pastels per cluch. 2pastels * five females = ten pastel which is better than say 2 pastels from a pastel female to normal male. Shouldn't males be more expensive then?

There is an easy explanation to your question...I will use your numbers, here goes...

to purchase (these are rough estimates):
1 pastel male 5 spider females = $76,000

1 Spider male 5 Pastel females = $27,500

If you breed either one of these 2 groups you will get the same out come in babies... Most people who have female pastels are saving them for projects like the BUMBLE BEE BALL... I know I am...
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1.12 Ball Pyhtons

1 pastel male and 5 spider (assuming all are only het) females- you would get 25% normal($100 a piece), 25% pastel($1500 a piece), 25% spider ($14500 a piece), 25% bumblbee (you would keep those). So assuming all females lay 4 eggs that hatch that is 20 eggs, 5 of each type. so you would have $64500 if you sold each of the above offspring for the mentioned price.

1 spider male adn 5 pastel females (assuming all are het)- you would get 25% normal($100 a piece), 25% pastel($1500 a piece), 25% spider ($14500 a piece), 25% bumblbee (you would keep those). So assuming all females lay 4 eggs that hatch that is 20 eggs, 5 of each type. so you would have $64500 if you sold each of the above offspring for the mentioned price.

notice how they are the same.
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

Where do you get het from? Spider and Pastel are both dominant mutations.

I think Twest was talking about the price "to purchase" the breeders which you point out would produce the same thing. Basically that female pastels are valuable for breeding to more expensive morph males. Also, I would point out that they are more valuable for producing the more expensive super pastel.

The reason that female pastels are double that of males, is because you need a female pastel to make a superpastel. If you have 1 male pastel and breed him to 5 normals, lets say that each normal lays 6 good eggs, you will end up with about 15 pastels (about $25,000 worth). If you breed 2 pastels together and your female lays 6 good eggs, you may end up with 1 super pastel and 5 pastels (also about $25,000 worth). Here's the catch though, the super pastel is a male and you raise him up and breed him. Anything you breed him too will come out pastel. Breed him to a spider and you have pastel spiders first season along with any co-dominant morph you breed him to. You have to think about as the fact that co-dominants are hets., breed two together and you'll have a super form. Look at the price of hets. for any recessive morph, the price of the female is usually at least triple the price of the males.

pastel is a CO DOMINANT mutation so a super pastel has a gene type (a'a') using a' for pastel and a for normal and a NORMAL PASTEL has a gene type (a'a). SPider has not been proved yet, so assuming it is dominant and was made from a spider to normal breeding its gene type is (Aa) using A for spider and a for normal. you need to learn genetics.

Heterozygous-The genotype where both traits are expressed
homozygous-the genotype where only one trait is expressed
genotype-the gene pair
phenotype-the visual characteristics.
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

I was talking about purchasing a breeding project.

Sorry I HAD to use the Bumble Bee Ball as my example they are just so beautiful... IMO
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1.12 Ball Pyhtons

sorry. I didn't notice it. Yeah the bumblebees are beautifuul.
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

If you have a pastel male and 5 normal females lets say like you say they make $10,000.
if you have a pastel male and a single pastel female you get 4 eggs and 1 normal 2 pastels and 1 SUPERPASTEL you make $12,000 so lets see which would you rather have?

also pastel isn't really the morph in the codom gene the morph is superpastel.
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

And of course if you have the pastel pair you can ALSO breed the one male to the 5 normals in addition to your shot at super pastel.

yup. Some BP males get lots of luvin.
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 normal ball python (felix)
1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

You need a female to make supers....and supers cost much more...

Why not ask why het albino females are 5 TIMES more expensive? Why are het pied females more expensive? Why are POSSIBLE het genetic stripe females more expensive?

Once a female is bred, that's it, she's done for the year. Its called FINITE output. Therefore if you want "x" amount of output, you need "x" amount of females. Males don't have that finite output. Its not really infinite, but they can knock up many many females. Breeding once does not stop them from breeding again. Therefore, you only need ONE male to do the job. Supply and demand. If there's a thousand breeders that want "x" amount of output, then you need 1000 time x amount of females. But you'd only need a 1000 males. Supply and demand. Females are more in demand. If more people want them, then the price has to rise until it meets the demand curve.

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