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kick_baal Mar 22, 2004 09:38 PM

Welcome to Rodney's Diner where the motto is "Same old hash, different day". Yawn.

You see only what you want to see and you're too purposefully stupid to reason with logically - everything you don't agree with or understand is some liberal's fault. I'm not even going to bother responding to your post in any detail except to borrow a cliche and say I think globally but act locally. I don't believe you will fault me for that since you are a conservative cliche yourself. Maybe I'll have you over for dinner some day but first I better start building my igloo in my colder climate... yeah, like hell.
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rodmalm Mar 23, 2004 10:52 PM

Why don't you just go look at the original thread? I don't start a new thread everytime I reply to you.

Here's the link for others that are interested.

forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=389211,395802

Rodney

kick_baal Mar 24, 2004 11:29 AM

You're just angry because you got busted on that Stratosphere/Troposhere thing. I was originally going to post a long reply but Kingsnake timed me out and that's how this post ended up out of sequence. I decided I was wasting my time with you since you're a Global Warming Athiest (in addition to being an athiest ). I may have started a new thread by accident, but you're still the most intentionally stupid person on this board.
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rodmalm Mar 25, 2004 04:37 PM

No, I am quite happy! I think you are angry because you disproved your argument with your own posts. Why do you think that data that is believed to be flawed, and can be demonstrated to be biased,(land based temp. stations) is more relevant than satellite data of the stratosphere when discussing global warming? Perhaps there are other variable affecting stratosphere temps. (like UV and ozone) but how many variable are there that can't be accounted for by computer models? Hundreds? Thousands? Millions?

If computer models often can't get tomorrows weather right, how can they predict global warming 100 years from now, with any accuracy, when there are so many more variables (many which aren't even known) to account for?

Are you calling the 80% of environmental scientists and climatologists, that I have referenced as not believing in global warming, unintelligent also? Do you think the 15-17% that believe in global warming, and that we are the cause, must be right?

Don't you find it odd that 80% of the public believes in global warming, but the opposite ratio of environmental scientists and climatologists do?

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I will tell you a few other names you can call me.

Easter bunny atheist, ghost atheist, psychic atheist, Aliens on Earth atheist, Santa Clause atheist, Tooth Fairy atheist, etc.

Frankly, I think it is unintelligent to believe such fairytales unless there is proof. Just as unintelligent as representing a flawed theory as fact. And it is really unintelligent to devastate economies because of those beliefs.

I am sorry if I like to see proof of things (especially before spending trillions of dollars), and if this offends you, but I hope you haven't misled anyone or reinforced the brainwashing attempts by the left.

Rodney

kick_baal Mar 25, 2004 10:13 PM

I don't recall "disproving" anything I said about my take on Global Warming but you're proving quite admirably for everyone on the board that you're dead from the neck up. Apparently, you're a mental atheist as well.

Broke soil on that garden yet?

BTW, your last two replies represent the shortest posts I believe you've made. How ever did you manage to resist the urge to write a pointless 500,000 word reply? I applaud your uncharacteristic show of self-restraint. Now please do the world a favor and wean yourself down to zero(0) words per post.
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rodmalm Mar 25, 2004 10:40 PM

No on the garden. It is currently pouring down rain outside. I'll probably start it after tax time.

As for you not recalling, don't you remember saying that the temp. change you have seen locally is evidence of global warming? Don't you remember that global warming effects would barely even be detectible in such a short period of time as 20 years? You said you have been looking into the theory of global warming for a long time. Have you ever seen any global warming theorists say that global warming doesn't cause harsher winters? I haven't, in the many dozens of articles I have read from them.--I can produce dozens of these articles for you if you want.

Warmer winters and night time temps are what all the anti global warming scientists all say, which is the same thing you have said you have experienced. Again, I can produce dozens of articles that say this also.

So how do you rationalize the fact that you said "you experience warmer winters now, which is evidence of global warming", but warmer winters agrees with both my points and the anti global warming scientist majority, and is in complete contradiction to the minority pro global warming alarmists ideas that you are buying into?

Rodney

kick_baal Mar 26, 2004 12:02 PM

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rodmalm Mar 26, 2004 11:57 PM

First, some articles from pro-global warming alarmists, or quotes of pro-global activists from anti-warming activists.--to show how the pro side says global warming causes cooler winters.

In recent years, advocates of the global warming theory have convinced many Americans that virtually any weather-related calamity is evidence that human-induced global warming is underway.

The Clinton Administration knows this all too well. The Florida fires, the northeastern blizzard in 1996, the hurricanes of 1995, floods in South Dakota in 1997 and the heat waves in the South and West this year have all been cited by the Clinton Administration as evidence that global warming is occurring and that we need to act immediately to stop it.

the whole article www.nationalcenter.org/NPA206.html

The IPCC and the U.S. National Academy of Sciences agree that one major effect of global warming is likely to be more extreme weather --longer droughts, worse floods, hotter summers and colder winters, more and stronger hurricanes, tornadoes and wind storms. In 1994, the head of the IPCC, Professor Bert Bolin of Stockholm University, warned that, "Most of the damage due to climate change is going to be associated with extreme events, not the smooth global increase of temperature that we call global warming."

the whole article www.monitor.net/rachel/r429.html


By February, Canadians' love of fresh snow and winter sports has given way to annoyance, as we shovel our driveways for the umpteenth time. This winter, we've had some particularly nasty weather. But far colder and much nastier winters could be in store for us, especially for eastern Canadians and perhaps very soon.

The culprit, weirdly enough, could be global warming

the whole article www.globetechnology.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040216.gtcotad16/BNStory/Technology/

And here is a short bit on Al Gore's speach during the coldest day, in many years, in New York.

Gore is determined to deliver the speech -- hoping to make the case how "Global warming" is actually the cause of the record cold snap!

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"The extreme conditions are actually the end result of the planet warming," Gore has told advisers, sources say, in explaining his motivations. "The Bush policies are leading to weather extremes."

Now for a few of the critics on global warming.


A new study presented to the American Geophysical Union (AGU) documents that the concentration of concrete, large buildings, and other human activities artificially raises urban temperatures in such cities as Atlanta and Houston by an average of 10 degrees on hot summer days. The study supports a wide body of evidence suggesting ground-based temperature readings do not provide reliable evidence of significant global warming.

On December 17, just one week after the AGU study was released, the New York Times nevertheless reported 2003 was the third warmest year on record, and that the three hottest years on record all have occurred during the past six years. The misleading Times story, based on temperature readings taken at ground-based weather stations, conflicts with satellite measurements of the Earth’s lower atmosphere, which show very little, if any, warming since measurements began in 1979.

Recent studies on urban heat island effects appear to reconcile the ground-based measurements with the satellite data.

the whole article mitosyfraudes.8k.com/Ingles3/UHIE.html

But there is something NASA isn't telling you. This data comes from ground based temperatures --- usually measured by thermometers at airports. That presents a problem. Besides being moved a few times in their history and data being taken by an infinite number of people, all but a few of these stations in the first half of the twentieth century were surrounded by open countryside. The cities served by these airports expanded beyond the airports in the latter half of the twentieth century -- especially from the mid-1970s on. The airports, and therefore the thermometers, are now surrounded by asphalt, tar-paper roofs and tall buildings that trap heat.

the whole article www.discerningtoday.org/2002_second_warmest.htm


"The climate has wormed in the last century, but this took place before 1940. ...we don't think it was human activity. Satellite records form of the temperatures from 3 miles up, do not show any warming at all. Heat Islands caused by urbanization have distorted thermometer temperatures."
(Prof. Fred Singer-Atmospheric Physicist, University of Virginia, November 2000)

the whole article--highly recommended reading for everyone.

www.look-to-the-skies.com/new_page_3.htm

Interestingly, the pro-global warming activists take 2 different positions. Some say that winters get colder. Some say that winters get warmer. But the vast majority, as far as I can tell from all the articles I have read, say colder and more extreme conditions--especially environmental groups and Bush bashing groups.

The anti-global warming people seem to pretty much all agree that warmer nights and winters is from the Urban "heat island" effect--and do not indicate any global warming.

I can give you a lot more sources for this, but you can do a quick search using "global warming and extreme weather" and "global warming fraud and heat island effect" and variations thereof, if you want more sources.

Rodney

rodmalm Mar 27, 2004 12:07 AM

try doing a search of your city, or a nearby large city, and extreme weather temps.

I tried this for Miami, and there is absolutely no indication that there things are getting warmer.

If there was global warming, you would expect to see more record cold temps. early on, and more record warm temps. later, which is not the case. It is extremely random, and doesn't indicate any warming, as far as I can see.

www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/newpage/research/Introduction.htm

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if you had an unusual cold spell 20 years ago (causing your plant problems), and since then, temps. have been returning to more normal conditions. Who knows, you may have problems with frost again 5 years from now!

Rodney

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