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In reply to Rodneys post: http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=394112,397867

>>When Saddam was killing his own people with gas, we we're helping him? I know it has been alleged, but can you prove it?

Rodney that is about the saddest statement you ever spewed forth. It is apparent that either

A: You work for the republican party as a fluffer..
or
B: You suffer from an advanced case of dementia..

I make such accusations because of the ridiculous statement you posted below:

>>I know we provided precursor chemicals that could have been, and were intended for use in many other industries, and that the Iraqis then used them to make these chemical weapons, but we did not give them chemical weapons or help them use them as far as I Know. If you have a reputible source that confirms this, I would love to see it, for my own information.---Or is this just more disinformation from the left?

Rodney WTF type of "Industries" are you suggesting use "anthrax and bubonic plague"? I'd love to know.

Here is a list from a 1994 U.S. Senate Report of chemical agents we allowed U.S. corporations to sell Hussein between 1985-1990
We gave him:

Bacillus Anthracis = Anthrax
Clostridium Botulinum = Bacterial source of botulinum toxin
Histoplasma Capsulatum
Brucella melitensis
Clostridium Perfingens
Escherichia coli = E. coli

Just to name a few.

So Rodney what "Industries" would use those? What will it take for you to open you eyes, if even for just a second?

THIS IS OUR "the U.S." MONSTER "Saddam" We are just as RESPONSIBLE for the deaths of all those people at his hands. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T STOP HIM, WE HELPED HIM!!

Rodney there is no logic in your conversation, stop while your ahead..

Kuz your just making your self look silly

A few links:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A52241-2002Dec29¬Found=true

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0818-02.htm

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/medsearch/FocusAreas/riegle_report/report/report_index.htm

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/23/news-crogan.php

http://www.fas.org/man/gao/gao9498.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52241-2002Dec29?language=printer

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/publications/iraqgate/iraqgate.html

And medical treatments...In fact, due to my business, (raising animals) I used to regularly get flyers from laboratory suppliers. I got all these flyers, primarily because I was interested in buying syringes/needles both for giving vaccine injections (polyomavirus vaccine) and for getting "liquid" drugs out of vials. (like ivomec). Everything on your list, I believe I have seen for sale on these flyers, and they were being shipped via the U.S.P.S. and were available to anyone that wanted them a few years ago-no prescription was even needed! (Things changed since then due to the anthrax letters.) I distinctly remember Clostridium Botulinum, E. coli, and Anthrax being on these lists.

You said in an earlier post that we (the U.S.) provided Iraq with chemical weapons and we helped Saddam deploy them.

Now you come back with a number of biological agents, (which has nothing to do with what we were talking about-chemical weapons.) You don't even know the difference between chemical weapons and biologicals and you call me a joke?

Anthrax is totally different from (weaponized anthrax) and it is quite safe, since it is so difficult to "dose" someone in it's normal form. (non-highly aerosolized)

Ever heard of Botox? You know, the toxin all the Hollywood types are using to get rid of wrinkles, etc. It is made from Clostridium Botulinum.

E. coli? Are you aware that there are many hundreds of strains of E. coli and most don't cause disease of any kind. In fact, if you treat for a "non-problem" strain, you open yourself up to being infected by a dangerous strain because you have now eliminated the harmless type and left the niche it occupied open to the harmful types.

These biologicals are used in medical research to develop better drugs to fight them. Many agricultural animals have problems with these biologicals, as well as people, and you will find that agricultural labs. use these biologicals all the time.

I am a joke? Again, which chemicals did we sell/give Saddam that were intended for him to use on his own people and how did we help him do that.--Hint, living medical purpose bacteria are not chemical weapons!

And no, I don't work for any republican agency. But I do like to hear the truth once in a while, and I will rebut anything that appears to be yet another lie, unless there is some proof!).--I'd still like to know, for my education, what chemical weapons we gave Saddam.

Rodney