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This doesn't look good...

Antegy Mar 26, 2004 07:47 AM

A while ago I posted a message about how my burm lost a tooth while trying to pry his way out of his vision cage. Since then he has been doing very well, and as a matter of fact, he just shed a couple night's ago and is looking great.

While I was cleaning up after his shed (you know how that goes) I found of the floor of his cage another tooth. This is somewhat perplexing because he hasn't been prying lately and seems to be otherwise very healthy. I'm wondering if it might have been loosend from before (when he originally knocked out the other one), and only finally came out now. I'm also wondering if he may have swallowed it while eating, and then pooped it out (since I did find it just lying on the floor about a pile of waste).

Here's a photo of the tooth - next to the older one he lost a while ago (the recent one is on the left, the older on the right). I wonder if anyone is familiar enough with python teeth to be able to say from which part of the mouth does each tooth come from (they do look significantly different).

Any thoughts or comments on this?

Thanks,
- Mark
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Replies (5)

BrianSmith Mar 26, 2004 05:29 PM

Hi Mark,

Don't worry. It's not uncommon for them to frequently lose and replace teeth and the teeth are frequently swallowed and passed with the fecal matter. When I was a kid I used to purposely look through my big retic's & burms waste (with tools! lol) to find large teeth.

>>A while ago I posted a message about how my burm lost a tooth while trying to pry his way out of his vision cage. Since then he has been doing very well, and as a matter of fact, he just shed a couple night's ago and is looking great.
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>>While I was cleaning up after his shed (you know how that goes) I found of the floor of his cage another tooth. This is somewhat perplexing because he hasn't been prying lately and seems to be otherwise very healthy. I'm wondering if it might have been loosend from before (when he originally knocked out the other one), and only finally came out now. I'm also wondering if he may have swallowed it while eating, and then pooped it out (since I did find it just lying on the floor about a pile of waste).
>>
>>Here's a photo of the tooth - next to the older one he lost a while ago (the recent one is on the left, the older on the right). I wonder if anyone is familiar enough with python teeth to be able to say from which part of the mouth does each tooth come from (they do look significantly different).
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>>Any thoughts or comments on this?
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>>Thanks,
>>- Mark
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christopher_o Mar 26, 2004 09:37 PM

hi brain...sounds like you had an....interesting childhood

chris

BrianSmith Mar 26, 2004 10:53 PM

I did have an interesting childhood. That particular interest of hunting for teeth started with my rattlesnakes. I had rattlesnakes before I got any other snakes. I was the only kid in the 4th grade with snakes and my first were Southern Pacific rattlesnakes. I remember after school kids would be like, "Hey you wanna come over and play hotwheels?" and I'd say something like, "No, I gotta go feed my rattlesnakes." and all my friends and their friends would want to come over and see this. I was already relatively notorious for,... other reasons,. but the snakes launched me into a whole new realm of notoriety.

But one day I had found a fang in the poop as I was cleaning and I was enthralled by it. I still have it and several hundred others somewhere in a box within a box and covered with dust I'm sure, lol. But I'll never forget the first retic tooth I found. Upon first learning that the back edge of a tic tooth has a cutting edge,..... truly fascinating.

But yes, almost my entire life has been encompassed around reptiles and other animals in one form or another. Before snakes it was lizards, and before lizards it was spiders, before that insects. Specializing in, that is, not limited to. I have never truly given up on any one group but only lessened my attentions on them and expanded in other areas. But even in recent time I have still kept and bred black widows and jumping spiders just to relive the thrill I experienced at 6. I still pause and study a moth by the porch light or a beetle under the board with equal interest. I think it will be in me for life. I am glad of this as life is never dull as a result.

>>hi brain...sounds like you had an....interesting childhood
>>
>>chris
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Believe in yourself and your abilities and you can accomplish anything.

Antegy Mar 27, 2004 05:03 PM

Brian, I too am a big fan of animals - though not just snakes, or any one group or type of animal. The problem for me is, while I love all different kinds of animals, I'm also allergic to just about every living thing. So, the cute and fuzzies are not an option for me to keep around. I'm even allergic to snakes - yes. Luckily, the only way I am to have a reaction is if the proteins in their saliva get into my blood somehow. Yes, that does mean that a bite = allergic reaction for me. Again, luckily, it's mild - sort of the equivalent of what happens with a mosquito bite (slightly white, little bump around the incision). I can deal with that - and it's not the norm for me to get bit, to say the least!

I was also wondering, if you could dig up (not out!) a retic tooth and maybe post a photo of it as compared to a burm tooth that would definitely be cool.

>>I did have an interesting childhood. That particular interest of hunting for teeth started with my rattlesnakes. I had rattlesnakes before I got any other snakes. I was the only kid in the 4th grade with snakes and my first were Southern Pacific rattlesnakes. I remember after school kids would be like, "Hey you wanna come over and play hotwheels?" and I'd say something like, "No, I gotta go feed my rattlesnakes." and all my friends and their friends would want to come over and see this. I was already relatively notorious for,... other reasons,. but the snakes launched me into a whole new realm of notoriety.
>>
>>But one day I had found a fang in the poop as I was cleaning and I was enthralled by it. I still have it and several hundred others somewhere in a box within a box and covered with dust I'm sure, lol. But I'll never forget the first retic tooth I found. Upon first learning that the back edge of a tic tooth has a cutting edge,..... truly fascinating.
>>
>>But yes, almost my entire life has been encompassed around reptiles and other animals in one form or another. Before snakes it was lizards, and before lizards it was spiders, before that insects. Specializing in, that is, not limited to. I have never truly given up on any one group but only lessened my attentions on them and expanded in other areas. But even in recent time I have still kept and bred black widows and jumping spiders just to relive the thrill I experienced at 6. I still pause and study a moth by the porch light or a beetle under the board with equal interest. I think it will be in me for life. I am glad of this as life is never dull as a result.
>>
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>>>>hi brain...sounds like you had an....interesting childhood
>>>>
>>>>chris
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>>Believe in yourself and your abilities and you can accomplish anything.
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BrianSmith Mar 27, 2004 06:37 PM

Oh man,.. mild or not mild that would suck to be alergic to the things we love most. I'm really sorry to hear that.

Yeah, we are genuine, bonifide all around animal lovers here. That being my wifey and myself. We have a very extensive rat facility where we breed 800 to 1000 female rats at any one time to produce anywhere from 5000 to 8000 rats per month and even in there we have numerous pets, lol. At least 100 of the rats have names, and are considered pets and are kept until they die of natural causes and are given proper burials when they die. Pathetic, maybe, but rats can be amazingly personable and cute and it's downright impossible not to single out favorites.

Same with rabbits. We run approximately 75 females at any one time to produce food for our large pythons and all the discernible females have names and are considered pets. We don't name the white ones as they are so hard to tell apart, but we do have one big fluffy white male that is named "Cotton", lol. The other three unrelated males all have names (Cassidy, Cali and Cody) too and are pets first. Strange but true.

Anyhoo,.. sorry for the ramble there. Your post just evoked a few things I guess.

About the teeth,... There was a recent thread in the retic forum where a few pictures of retic teeth were posted. The thread was titled something like, "Reticulated teeth, how long" by crested12. Some kid doing a report on snakes for a school assignment. You might want to check there first. If I was to go hunting through storage boxes I would undoubtedly make a huge mess, be there all day, and even then not find them. I have a LOT of stuff in lots of boxes my friend and this would not be an easy task. I'd have better luck taking up old hobbies and finding new ones, lol.

>>Brian, I too am a big fan of animals - though not just snakes, or any one group or type of animal. The problem for me is, while I love all different kinds of animals, I'm also allergic to just about every living thing. So, the cute and fuzzies are not an option for me to keep around. I'm even allergic to snakes - yes. Luckily, the only way I am to have a reaction is if the proteins in their saliva get into my blood somehow. Yes, that does mean that a bite = allergic reaction for me. Again, luckily, it's mild - sort of the equivalent of what happens with a mosquito bite (slightly white, little bump around the incision). I can deal with that - and it's not the norm for me to get bit, to say the least!
>>
>>I was also wondering, if you could dig up (not out!) a retic tooth and maybe post a photo of it as compared to a burm tooth that would definitely be cool.
>>
>>
>>>>I did have an interesting childhood. That particular interest of hunting for teeth started with my rattlesnakes. I had rattlesnakes before I got any other snakes. I was the only kid in the 4th grade with snakes and my first were Southern Pacific rattlesnakes. I remember after school kids would be like, "Hey you wanna come over and play hotwheels?" and I'd say something like, "No, I gotta go feed my rattlesnakes." and all my friends and their friends would want to come over and see this. I was already relatively notorious for,... other reasons,. but the snakes launched me into a whole new realm of notoriety.
>>>>
>>>>But one day I had found a fang in the poop as I was cleaning and I was enthralled by it. I still have it and several hundred others somewhere in a box within a box and covered with dust I'm sure, lol. But I'll never forget the first retic tooth I found. Upon first learning that the back edge of a tic tooth has a cutting edge,..... truly fascinating.
>>>>
>>>>But yes, almost my entire life has been encompassed around reptiles and other animals in one form or another. Before snakes it was lizards, and before lizards it was spiders, before that insects. Specializing in, that is, not limited to. I have never truly given up on any one group but only lessened my attentions on them and expanded in other areas. But even in recent time I have still kept and bred black widows and jumping spiders just to relive the thrill I experienced at 6. I still pause and study a moth by the porch light or a beetle under the board with equal interest. I think it will be in me for life. I am glad of this as life is never dull as a result.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>hi brain...sounds like you had an....interesting childhood
>>>>>>
>>>>>>chris
>>>>-----
>>>>Believe in yourself and your abilities and you can accomplish anything.
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>>www.antegy.com
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Believe in yourself and your abilities and you can accomplish anything.

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