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Jumpin Jack Flash, attacked my female instead of mating!

anson Mar 26, 2004 03:17 PM

Here is my young male Veiled. I tried mating him with my female today. He displayed and then swayed and rocked on his perch and lashed his tail. Then he swaggered towards her but when he got close he lunged and bit her on her side. He clamped on her hard all of a sudden and held on with his jaws like a bulldog and tried to shake her around. It took me a while to unclamp his jaws to get him off her.
The female was showing receptive colors and was a light color but she quickly turned black.
Is there something I can do to cool him down a bit. He is very young about 8 months old and this was his first time but he won't get far with that approach!
I am not even sure he realized it was a female. Any suggestions?

Replies (14)

anson Mar 26, 2004 03:20 PM

His father is the Kammers Chameleon "Flash Gordon"

lele Mar 26, 2004 04:52 PM

sounds like he has been taking "how to be nasty" lessons from Stitch! LOL! Was it Ohana that you were trying to mate him with? Maybe he doesn't like older women!

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cv768 Mar 26, 2004 06:07 PM

i'm sure he knew it was a female. try again in a week. if the behavior continues wait about a month or so to try again. Just montior them closely when you put them in and give them a few minutes to react to one another. Sometimes the mating behavior looks a little rough but its usually normal. Just be careful and take your time. Good luck!
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chunks_89 Mar 26, 2004 08:35 PM

Some breeders experience this, and have said sometimes to let the male see the female for short amounts of time every few days, so he gets used to her. Try either this or wait the month and try again. I've never tried this becuase i havn't had a chance to attempt mating yet, but some breeders say this works very well on easily fraked-out or arousable males.
Good luck with him!

anson Mar 26, 2004 09:31 PM

The last Veileds I bred did not act like this at all. Just a few head buts and some nips but he never tried to bite her in half and shake her. This guy has a short fuse.

joer Mar 27, 2004 08:07 AM

In the book I own about chameleons it says that you should take the female and put the female into the males cage not the male into the female cage maybe the female was giving jack some vibes about him being in her cage. I know when i took my female to my friends i had no problem but once he brought him over she started to go crazy and started to attack him.

anson Mar 27, 2004 10:28 AM

np

chico_dan85 Mar 30, 2004 02:53 PM

Maybe Jack's gay?? just kiddin...

anson Mar 26, 2004 09:29 PM

Poor thing she must think he is a nut case.

twinoats Mar 26, 2004 09:41 PM

Most of my chameleons don't care where they mate, but one of my male Carpets in particular became very territorial about his cage after his first mating. The first time, no problem when I put the female into his cage. Next day, same receptive female, same format, but he immediately attacked her. Now he attacks any female that enters his cage. Having learned this, I first put the female on a neutral "tree", then after she's explored a bit, put this particular male onto the tree. This works fine for mating, the male is not threatened. I have even experimented by removing the male from his cage, putting the female into his cage, then after a bit re-introducing the male back into his own cage, and he's fine. Something about the female invading "his" space aggravates him. My other male Carpets don't display this defensiveness about their cages, only the one male. It is interesting.

~Kerry

anson Mar 26, 2004 10:10 PM

but maybe I will try a third cage. I thought of trying it in their sunning cage outside. I think I will put the two cages where they can see each other for a couple of days.

chunks_89 Mar 27, 2004 10:33 AM

I don't know if a couple days would be a good idea, this might stress them out. Perhaps 1-3 hours at a time, and observe their behaviour. If the female is fine, let them see each other for longer. If your male is going nuts and pissy and trying to attack her through the screen, then you should obviously try again after a couple days.

anson Mar 27, 2004 10:54 AM

He is the one that goes bonkers.
I only set them together for about an hour where they can see each other then replace the barrier.
He does not bob his head like my panthers just flattens out and juts out his chin and lashes (curls and uncurls his tail)
then he walks like John Wayne over to her.
She gets very light with yellow spots and just sits there but flattens herself to the branch a bit.

chunks_89 Mar 27, 2004 11:37 AM

Keep trying...Not too often, though. It will stress him out eventually, so look for signs of stress. Your female sounds like a good mating female, as for the male...keep it up.

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