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I currently have a pair of seemingly juvenile WC sikorae that produced quite a bit for me over the winter. I ended up getting 5 pairs of eggs, and 6 of them were good. I incubated them in deli cups on perlite inside an aquarium at about 80 degrees and very high humidity...probably 75-90% most of the time. Out of all the eggs, I ended up with nothing. I did crack them open about 4 months into they're cycle, and most were just a yellow gook. Only one looked like it started to form. I don't think I incubated them wrong, but I think that the pair that was producing might have been too young? Could this be possible? I have an older pair as well and I've got nothing from them. I'm just kinda confused. I have no idea how old they are since they are WC. Anyways....your thoughts????
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some of my gexxx...
3.2 Leopard gex
3.2 Uroplatus Sikorae
1.1 Geckonia/Tarentola chazaliae (helmeted geckos)
0.0.1 CB Henkeli
1.1 Beardies
1.1 Sugar Gliders

80 degrees is way too warm!... I have hatched out sikorae with temps ranging from the mid-upper 60's to the lower 70's, and rarely over 75... This was the range throughout the eggs' terms...
Are you positive your eggs were good... Where they all hardshelled and nearly prefectly round?... Right now, incubation temps are a bit of a controversy among breeders... I would think that 80 degrees might have gotten you some hatchlings at around the 3 month mark, so there may be something else going on with your pair?!... Granted, incubation at 80 more than likely would have resulted in weak hatchlings...
I work at an institution with over 80 Uroplatus representing nearly every species... We have gotten eggs from several species, and in the begining of the project, we incubated at 78 degrees... Despite assit feedings, all hatchlings died within the first month... At the reccommendation of breeders seeing better results, we lowered incubation temps and the babeis now seem healthier more self dependant...
I have several henkeli eggs at home that are incubating in a range from 68-74 with 100% humidity at all times and they all candle prefectly for their respective ages...
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Ben

The temp must have been the cause then. The eggs were perfect, but the temp was just about exactly 80 throughout the cycle. They weren't in an incubator or anything, that was just about the room temp during the day in the winter. I guess nest year I'll do things a little different...
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some of my gexxx...
3.2 Leopard gex
3.2 Uroplatus Sikorae
1.1 Geckonia/Tarentola chazaliae (helmeted geckos)
0.0.1 CB Henkeli
1.1 Beardies
1.1 Sugar Gliders

Well getting offspring from Uroplatus is not allways that easy. I have experiences with Uroplatus S Sikorae too. They didn't lay eggs for a long time. When they did, the eggs were not at all good.
Sometimes the Uroplatus eggs look perfect, but you won't get offspring, or an explanation why you don't. Thats the way it is with uroplatus. You're not always in control!!! Perhaps the WC-females are not accepting the male as good enough? (A theory I heard a couple of times)
Keep up the good work, sooner or later you might succeed.
Kristian

Do you incubate your eggs, and where, at these lower temps ? I'm curious , Just at room temp?
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Eve

At home, because I don't have the luxurious several hundred dollar incubator, I just use room temperature... Because I live in an older house, the temps fluctuate a bit, so the location of the incubator is critical... Ideally, I would have the temperature at a constant 72 degrees... However, some other experienced breeders seem to think fluctuation is good as long at you stay away from the extremes as mush as possible (65 and 78)... My actual incubator is somewhat of a complicated thing to describe... It includes about everything but voodoo magic… Again, here I used a few tricks from successful breeders with some quarks of my own…. My set-up is probably overkill, due to that fact that I have seen Uro eggs hatched out in delicups sitting on a desk for four months… If need be, I can explain the incubator in more detail… It’s mostly Kelly Sharp’s design…
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Ben

I bought my Male henekli from Kelly ! My little guy was featured on her web site as a hatchling , Barkley !

Anyway I was interested because soon the temps will be higher in the house. And I was wondering where the heck if mine breed, to put the eggs ! :0)

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Eve

With summer coming, I am going to close off a small spare bedroom and install a window air system... I have central air, but I doubt in this old house (with a TON of windows) that it will consistantly keep the entire house cool enough...
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Ben

I can't say enough good things about Kelly either, she has been there anytime I needed/need advice about Uro's... I have boughten 2.1 CB U. henkeli from her and they were all outstanding specimens...
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Ben

Shes a good person, very helful, and kind! I liked Kelly right off the bat, and thats why I decided to get my male from her, over a year ago.

We clicked, as far as being female and loving the reptiles.

Shes been pretty busy lately, shes into Panther chameleons now, aaaahhhhhhh my next major expense hehehhehee !

Never ends Ben, theres so many cool reptiles out there, I just can't seem to learn enough or have enough beautiful ones around me,
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Eve

This winter ive gotten 4 eggs from my U.s.sikorae, I hatched out 4/4 and three of the babies are doing very good. I had the incubator set up att 75 Degrees and 100% humidity and a nightfall drop to roomtemprature. They all hatched in between 71-85 days.

Theres i link to som pics of the Juveniles in the "White Sikorae" discussion.

I also recommend the Book "Leaf-tailed geckos: the genus Uroplatus" by Sascha Svatek & Susanna van Duin, really informative and alot of noce pictures

best regards

Michael Jonasson
Uroplatus babies