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I was wondering what the lowest temps Panthers can stand outside at night. I was going to put my chameleons out all day and night as its been really warm during the day. I checked the night temps and they said it gets down to fifty two degrees at the lowest. Is that too cold? I thought it was so I didn't leave them out all night. answers please
Stevie

I think 52's kinda pushing it.... I had a panther sleep through a night slightly colder than that, but it was kinda an accident. All was fine, but I wouldn't do it again. Mid-50's would be ok, but 60 would be safer. Another thing I did with my Mellers (who lives outside) is to put a ceramic heater on top of the cage, so there's constantly a warm spot in there. Works great, created no light, so your chameleon gets a good warm night's sleep.
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Tyler Stewart
Las Vegas NV
www.BLUEBEASTREPTILE.com

and to answer your question...mine go in when it gets below 60 at night, if I absolutly cant get them inside that night I put red heat lamps out for them. when it gets to 50 or below I make sure they go inside I dont even chance the heat lamps then...

and my question... my Veiled sleeps in water now for some odd reason... the pothos I have in his cage has a few vines that reach the bottom of his cage and he hangs upside down on them halfway in the water at the bottom of his cage to sleep. it gets to low 60's at night some times but he still sleeps in his water...his eyes have never looked better and he seems to enjoy it but do you think this is bad for him? would you empty the water or let him sleep in it?
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From Sunny Florida
Jovana's kids listed below
1.0 Veileds
1.1 Ambanja Panther
1.1 Tamatave Panther

Jovana,
I'm not really sure which water you're referring to him sleeping in.... Typically, chameleons don't (or shouldn't) have access to water. I would keep him away from water, especially if he's asleep, in case he tips into it or something without knowing... Maybe I didn't understand the question, but I wouldn't have standing water to begin with. My veileds don't have problems with hydration much, even though it's extremely rare that I even see them physically drinking. I mist them and drip them daily, and they never seem to care for either. The silkworms I feed them probably give them all the moisture they need, although I always provide them the option for more.
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Tyler Stewart
Las Vegas NV
www.BLUEBEASTREPTILE.com

I have a tupperware container in the bottom of the cages that the dripping water collects into. I usually empty them every morning maybe I should start emptying his at night.

I've never had a problem with him being hydrated but now he just looks amazing. I did not think about him drowning... just getting cold...
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From Sunny Florida
Jovana's kids listed below
1.0 Veileds
1.1 Ambanja Panther
1.1 Tamatave Panther

Any time I've used a similar set up for dripping, I've put a piece of screening over the top of the container and secured it with a large rubber band. I'm especially paranoid about this in cages with female live bearers because you can unexpected births and babies can easily drown in such bowls.
Ed

I'm no expert, but I dont think its safe for the temperature to drop below 60. And if its at 60, it shouldn't be for prolonged periods of time.

Under the right conditions in Santa Barbara you can keep them out year round. The key is to acclimate them to the colder weather, i.e. put them out in the summer months and let them adjust to winter slowly as it gets colder. I live in SB and keep just about everything I have out year round and my stuff does really well. I do have an area though that is sheltered from the wind and gets a sold 5-7 yrs of sun a day depending on time of year. In the colder months of Nov, Dec and Jan depending on night time temps I put a blanket over my setup.

Basically, as it is really hot here right now keep them out during the day and bring them in when it is dark, around 8 o'clock. Once daylight savings hits you can start to keep them out longer but give them a chance to adjust before assuming everything will be ok to leave them out all the time. By June you should have no problems leaving them outside. Be sure to have a rain/wind sheltered spot for the cages and you should do good.

-Matt

is that last panther yours, because thats the coolest looking panther i have ver seen. how old is he, he looks small but his colors are amazing.