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Red Eyes Doesn't Eat

callidryas Mar 31, 2004 11:45 AM

I got a red eyes tree frog (algalichnis callydrias) and since i bought it has refused to eat any kind of food... i've tried with tennebriums, roaches and crikets with the same result... it looks very thin now and hardly even move... what can i do about it? shall i force it to eat? how? what alternative foods can i provide it with?

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pitcherplant7 Apr 02, 2004 11:22 AM

There are a number of factors that could cause this problem.

First of all, was it wild caught or captive bred?

A wild caught animal is often stressed and can suffer more if it had any parasites or ailments from its native rainforest home to begin with. The stress of transport and adapting to captive life can be difficult on the animal.

Ask whoever you bought it from. Ask how long they "conditioned" them after being taken if they were WC.

Also, what size tank do you have? What is the humidity, temperature, and does the anuran have a decent timed photoperiod?

Force feeding can be extremely difficult. I am no expert on force feeding, as I have never tried to force any anuran to do this, as they usually end up dying from some ailment, not just captive stress. There is no one surefire method either.

Before you try and attempt this, make sure first everything in the frog's environment is correct. Sometimes, sometimes that is, liquid vitamin sprays for reptiles can be useful. Some actually help stressed animals, but these are mainly for reptiles and not amphibians. But water soluble vitamins would easily pass into a frogs skin. I did this once on an African Clawed frog that I had a long time ago, and I can assure you that it will not kill them or make them sicker. But not every spray is the same, so use your intuition to find the best one, as I cannot say (mine was discontinued). This frog I put to sleep because he had Cancer and tumors.

Spray the frog, after carefully reading what is in the vitamins first. Water soluble is best, like vitamin C and electrolytes like potassium and sodium. Vitamins like A are fat soluble, and useless.

Do not stress her out anymore. Best done while the animal is sleeping during the day.

Parasites are very difficult to treat. Many wildcaught frogs can harbor nemetodes, parasitic worms. Luckily, there are medications to treat them. Ivermectin is best for Rhabdias nemetodes. They can be seen crawling on excretement, extremely tiny white things. Rapid weight loss is common. Ask you veternarian for Ivermectin if you suspect this. Drip or soak the frog in this solution. Misting is another option. Or an injection, I have done this and it is not easy for the frogs or the vet.

As a final resort, force feeding supposedly is done by getting a tongue depressor. Hold the frog firmly so it cannot jump. Best use latex gloves so the oils in your hands will not cause more harm. Freeze a few crickets to kill them and soak them in a liquid vitamin spray for a while. Once you pry the animals mouth open, push it in. You can also administer medicine this way.

Depending on the frog, he may or may not make it. But good luck to you!

pitcherplant7

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CivicChick Apr 02, 2004 05:26 PM

I agree, please post the temps/humidity/etc of your tank.
How long have you had it? It sometimes takes frogs (as they are very sensitive) a while to adjust. You could try asking the pet shop or breeder what they were feeding it & give it the same thing. Also, are you absolutely sure it's not eating? I went through this same thing when I got my juvenile RETF's. I never saw them eat, & I was getting very concerned. Look around yoru tank, though, & see if you see any waste deposits. This is how I learned mine were eating. Also, you could try setting up an observation or quarantine tank. Depending on their size, get a tank & just put moist paper towels (white only, no printed dye) on the bottom with a potted plant & put the frog in there. That way, you can easily count the crickets the next morning & know if the frog has eaten or not. This is the advice I received on another forum.
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