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I dont know to much history with posts on here since i am new to kingsnake but I am deffinitely not new to the world of anacondas. However, there are a few animals that are impossible to find pictures of or any information. These animals of course belong to marajo island. Do Eunectes Deschauenseei and Eunectes Barbouri even exist (i have heard there are many sceptics)? What do we know about these animals...Im just curious to see what people say about this topic. It may just be lame(or i might be the only idiot who doesnt know much about them or what the take is) and you might want to just pass this post up..but if you would like to write anything...feel free and say whatever. Thanks

` I too, have an interest in these two species.
` Information on E. barbouri is scarce. In 1999, E. barbouri was transferred to "Nomina nuda". It was deleted in the taxonomy, in favor of E. murinus.
` Here's the reference:
www.embl-heidelberg.de/~uetz/db-info/changes1999.html
` E. murinus was described by Linnaeus in 1758.
` E. deschauenseei was described by Dunn & Conant, in 1936. It is listed as Brazil, and French Guiana. Reference: 216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.herpbreeder.com/worldspecies/Snakes/boidea/eunectes.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3Deunectes%2Bbarbouri%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26newwindow%3D1%26sa%3DG. This link will open slowly, I've set it to translate from the Deutsch, to English.
` Don't forget Eunectes beniensis, in Bolivia, described in 2000 by Dirksen.

` Anyway, as far as E. deschauenseei, you're in luck! Go here: www.markoshea.tv/series1/series01-11.html
` This site is very interactive, don't miss all links in the pix.
` Enjoy.
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That is some cool stuff. So how many differant types of anacondas are proven?? The last link you posted went to Mark O'sheas site, could that actualy be a wild high breed? a green-yellow cross and not a individual specie? That Bolivia Anaconda has much study been done on it? It seems to have a differant head than a yellow or normal green.

` I'm still looking for the answers to your questions.
` If we all keep looking for them, and post what we learn, we'll have a better chance of finding what's available.
` I'd bet, though, that the Yellow Anaconda's range is not as restricted as currently believed.
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As Rich posted above, E. barbouri was never fully accepted by the taxonomic community ever since it was first described by Dunn and Conant. In the original description, the main distinguishing characteristic which was said to differentiate it from E. murinus were the light centers in the dark dorsal spots, as opposed to the solid black dorsal spots of E. murinus. The problem with this is that E. murinus shows the entire spectrum of spot shades, from light centers to solid black centers all within a local population, and even among young from the same litter. Additionally, data on scale counts has shown that they all fall within the same range for specimens from both species. There is in fact, no way to differentiate the two, hence barbouri was dropped as they are the same species. There are currently four recognized species in Eunectes, just add E. notaeus to the three Rich listed. Thanks,

Kelly

You will need to find a copy of Lutz Dirksen's book "Anakondas", to find any good information on E. beniensis. Unfortunately, I don't believe an english translation has been printed at this time.

Kelly

It is funny..when i was making the post i did not mention e. beniensis since in all research I have read i have only found one source even mentioning it and i could not read it since i had no idea what language it was even in. This made me just exclude it since i didnt know if it was accepted or not. It is very cool to see people posting that it is this species that is acctepted and not eunectes barbouri. i also thought the photo on the mark o'shea website looked kind of like a green x yellow also. I am very happy with the interest in this post and the response i got. thanks folks and feel free to keep adding.