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Savannah Monitor laying her eggs

jcmonitor Apr 07, 2004 08:27 PM

Caught my female laying her eggs tonight. A succesful breeding will post how many when she finishes. Started at 7 pm and still going.

Enjoy

Replies (13)

bmendyk Apr 07, 2004 09:25 PM

Haha, just kidding. Congrats on the eggs!!! It's not very often we see hobbyists breeding their sav's. Maybe you'll be able to sell TRUE CAPTIVE BRED savanahs in the near future... I wish you the best of luck...

bob
The Odatriad

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FR Apr 07, 2004 09:28 PM

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jcmonitor Apr 08, 2004 11:45 AM

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CONGRATS, BUT I HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION FOR YOU. OUT OF 20 EGGS THAT I HAVE NOW CANDLED 15 SEEM TO BE FERTILE, BUT OF THOSE ONLY 9 ARE REALLY TURGID AFTER A NIGHT IN A STABLE INCUBATOR. THE OTHER 6 SEEM TO BE A LITTLE DEFLATED. I ADDED A TOUCH OF WATER BUT NOTHING CHANGED AS OF THIS AFTERNOON.

DO YOU THINK THEY COULD SURVIVOR OR ARE THEY LOST?
ONE IS ACTUALLY VERY FLAT AS MY FEMALE WAS ON TOP OF IT IN HER NEST BOX, YET THERE IS A CLEAR BLOOD LINE IN IT BUT IT HASN'T BOUNCED BACK YET?
ANY INFORMATION YOU CAN GIVE ME WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

THANKS,
JC

FR Apr 08, 2004 05:47 PM

Congrats again, A little advice, leave the eggs alone. Anything you do after you set them up can do no good and only do harm.

Do not candle, do not flip, roll or test drive. A bad egg will never get better by candling and a good egg can only be harmed.(in oh so many ways) Candling will never make it better, stronger, or give it a better chance of hatching.

A bad egg will spoil soon enough and your wondering will be over.

If you are candling veins, then it may not be a good sign. Monitor eggs do not like to be held in the female after fertilization. Most good eggs cannot be candled accurately when first laid. A month later and oh yea. Leave them alone, hahahahahahaha.

Also eggs are not sponges, they do not absorb moisture quickly. Set up the eggs and give them time. Anything you do in the short term will again most likely be of harm then be helpful.

I think its called patience, something we herpers lack, hahahahahahaha all of us.

50/50 by weight, then give it time. Best of luck FR

jcmonitor Apr 09, 2004 11:07 AM

Thank you so much for the advice I see what your saying about just giving them time. I will let everyone know in a month how many I have left, however I just wanted to ask one more question:

My female started at sixish on Wednesday. She laid 20 eggs, Thursday morning hours after the first set was put in the incubator, she laid another 6, then 4 more that evening. Now this morning she laid 3 more mixed with fecal matter. Is this normal for such a drawn out egg laying. I was under the impression that they lay in a few hours and then are done. She started feeding and everything again right away and that's why I am so amazed that she laid more.
Now I have 33 eggs. I just want to know if I should get her to a vet or if this is normal for a first time girl she is three and half years old and its her first time.

Thanks again so much for your advice I really admire the work you do and although some people may say a bosc isn't worth breeding I am not in it for the money I am in it for the animal and seeing my efforts bring something about that is fruitful.

Regards,
JC

Bloodbat Apr 07, 2004 09:41 PM

Congratulations!!!!

Best of luck with the eggs, and keep us updated!
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^x^ Bloodbat ^x^

crocdoc2 Apr 07, 2004 09:53 PM

I told you, NP!

mkbay Apr 07, 2004 11:40 PM

Thats great to see - abit late in their breeding cycle, but very nice to see! Hope all works out well...at 28C-29C ~90% humidity for ~160-180 days and presto-chango = baby exanthematicus!!
Good Luck!
mbayless

jcmonitor Apr 08, 2004 11:49 AM

A SHORT QUESTION FOR YOU, I HAVE 20 EGGS BUT A FEW LOOK RATHER FLAT AND DEFLATED. THE OTHERS ARE TURGID AND STRONG BUT I CANDLED MOST OF THEM AND A FEW OF THOSE DEFLATED ONES ARE SHOWING A BLOOD LINE. THE INCUBATOR IS STABLE AT 29 C AND THE HUMIDITY IS PERFECT TOO, BUT ITS BEEN A DAY AND THESE FEW EGGS HAVN'T BOUNCED BACK UP, COULD THEY BE DEAD ALREADY? THEY WENT FROM HER TO THE NEST BOX, CANDLED, THEN RIGHT INTO THE INCUBATOR.

ANY OPINION OR INFORMATION YOU HAVE IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

THANKS,
JC

JCMonitor Apr 08, 2004 06:38 AM

Thank you everyone for the congrats. Just wanted to let you all know she laid 20 eggs, candled a few and they are fertile. We will see what happens. The incubator has been running since copulation was observed so its stable at 29 C. So now I wait.

Flamedragon Apr 08, 2004 03:36 PM

You should beable to help since you monitors is laying egg.
Tomorrow i'm going to get a baby savannah and I have read a book on them is they anything that you think i should know.

Thanks for the help

Brandon

jcmonitor Apr 08, 2004 06:03 PM

Well Brandon,
as this is my first time successfully getting my savannahs to breed, I wouldn't call this book advice but its what I have learned.

First, of all be patient. A young savannah may not be the "dog like" friendly animal that most people expect. In fact, my two were very nippy and nasty till just about six months ago when they finally grew up, and I have had them since they were no bigger and four inches long. Now you could let them sit on your lap and never worry about being bitten.

Second, I know the books say allot about temps and such but I will tell you what has been working for me, their basking area is about 106 F. The ambient temp in the room they are kept is never below 80 F and for their cage on the cooler end it doesn't drop below that.
I do use a hide box, and believe in them strongly, especially if your intent is to eventually have two animals and breed. They like to be hidden and will head straight to it when the lights go out. Inside the box is moist sand and vermiculite that is buried under their bedding medium, which I mix my own 50lbs playbox sand, one brick of the coconut fiber blocks, and vermiculite about three large pasta bowls worth. Mix it well and add some water till it sticks a bit but isn't wet.
I know some people would say add more sand or decomposed granite so they can make their own chambers but I have to be honest with you if you ever need to get to them with out ripping apart the whole cage to uncover them, its allot easier with the box because you know where it is, how far you have to dig, and it lifts right out with your monitor inside. So its simpler.

Their diet is made up of frozen mice, chicks, rats and yes I use the turkey diet, but when they were little nothing but crickets some turkey as they hit 12 inches and then pinkies.

Well that's about it. I wish you the best of luck and I hope that this helps. Remember this isn't so much advice as well this is what works for me.

Regards,
JC

Flamedragon Apr 08, 2004 09:27 PM

Well thanks for the help. I went a little bit ago and got my monitor and he is about 4 to 6 inches. he has not tried to bit me so far but then i've only had him a few hours.

Thanks
Brandon His name is Professor chaos

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