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Sold to me as a ghost. Anery sibs were black and white. I have since sold it as ghost, but I want to know what you guys think? As you can see the pinks are coming in on the neck.

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~Katt

The best time to tell ghost vs. anery is when they're hatchlings. Anery hatchlings are always light grey with black saddles. More than a few sheds in, and they begin to lighten up. The darkest ghosts can then resemble anerys, and the lightest anerys will resemble ghosts. Your snake could be either a ghost, or an anery who will wind up with brown coloration.

Incidentally, for those of you confused on morphs, Serpwidgets has a book out about all the current cornsnake morphs: The 2004 Buyer's Guide to Cornsnakes. Might be helpful. It has information on genetics and soforth as well (after all, Serp IS a genetics whiz...).

http://www.cornguide.com
Serpwidgets' Book

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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."

This is a baby. I got her as hatchling and picked her out amoungst her anery siblings which were without a doubt aneries.
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~Katt

If it was easily distinguishable from it's siblings at hatching... then it's a ghost. Haffun.

-Kat
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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."

Thanks a lot! I feel a lot better, knowing I haven't misled anyone!
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~Katt

This is not a ghost, it's an anery, ghost are not looking like this one, and i have an anery and he's exactly the same color of skin, and like this one grey eyes.

Beautiful anery!!

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1 ? stripped amel
1 ? anery
1 male hypoamelanstic

I've had several aneries and it looks nothing like the one I posted. Do you have a better pic of your anery? It's not clear enough to compare.

As well, the parents of this snake were ghosts/het. The father was a very dark ghost, but lots of pink.
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~Katt

I dont want to debate, but mine is an anery sure at 100%, and he's exactly the same color!!

When he was young he was black and grey, but when he grows up he loose a bit of color and became like yours. The center of markings is like brown but insted of ghost, there is a black line surrounding it. And also insted of a ghost, the skin where there is no markings is grey... not brown!! look at your picture you will see!!

I have anoter pic of my anery for you but its an old pic and his markings was not as discolorated as they are now, but you can see the grey color between markings.
I dont have a ghost to show you as comparaison but if they are not as dark as anery, the color is very lighter.

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1 ? stripped amel
1 ? anery
1 male hypoamelanstic

At 2 months

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1 ? stripped amel
1 ? anery
1 male hypoamelanstic

and looks nothing like the pic of the two month old you have posted.

Here's a pic of the same snake I posted as hatchling about the same age as the one you posted (2mos). As yyou can see they are very different.

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~Katt

...then your critter is definitely a ghost.

To cornsnake234:
Anerys and Ghosts can overlap in appearance. I used to have an Anery that pretty much everyone mistook for a ghost. When bred with a ghost... he produced anerys and ghosts. So obviously Anerys can look like ghosts. Furthermore, one of my ghosts was so dark in the saddle that people insisted she was anery. When bred to a definite ghost, she produced 100% ghosts.

Ergo, especially with older snakes, you can't judge 100% by appearance on the ghost/anery front. The BEST time to tell is when they've just hatched or just had their first shed. At that age, Anerys are straight black and grey, and ghosts are lighter, sometimes pink. After they've had a few more sheds and grown a bit, it becomes more and more difficult to tell who is what.

-Kat
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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."

then we have corns that look exactly the same but yours is a ghost an mine an anery... we learn new things everyday with snakes!
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1 ? stripped amel
1 ? anery
1 male hypoamelanstic

we don't see the color very well but here is a most recent pic.

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1 ? stripped amel
1 ? anery
1 male hypoamelanstic

I say anery because all of the ghosts that I have seen including mine have a somewhat chocolate checked belly not black checkered. But just my opinion.

The pic above ("Most Recent Pic" is an anery.

The pic we're discussing is at the very top of the thread.
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~Katt

I thought my anery looked like a ghost for a long time, but now that he's older it's too obvious he's anery. That pic of yours is a ghost no doubt!

Cornsnake234, I don't want to be rude, but your snake really looks nothing like hers, but does look a lot like my anery did when he was younger. Also, I'm not sure, but I don't think you have the experience to tell her for sure which it is, IMO. I guess what I really mean is, you're pretty new to corns yourself aren't you? Maybe hold off on positively identifying morphs, just for a while. Again, I mean no disrespect, and if I'm wrong and you have a ton of experience with corns and thier color morphs I apologize, I only want to help you learn, not cut you down
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Dianne
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This is just thinking out load so-to-speak but...
To me that snake has too much black to be a ghost.
A ghost carries hypomelanism so wouldn't that be a distinct reduction in black giving it the washed out almost "ghost of itself" look that gave it the name to begin with?
opinions most definitely wanted.
Jimmy

Maybe im not an expert but i think like draybar he's too black to be a ghost...

Just an opinion too.... i just wanted to tell what i think no to be rude with anyone!!!
sorry sorry sorry

but i still think its an anery...
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1 ? stripped amel
1 ? anery
1 male hypoamelanstic

and just to add one thing.... normaly i don't help people to identify their snake because i let you "experts" do that because i know for sure you surely have a better eyes than me... and im sure you do!

but for this one, it's just... i really think its was maybe a mistake to tell her that it was a ghost because he looks SO SO SO much like mine and i know it's not evident with the pics i have but i know my snake and he's exactly like on her pic. I just wanted to help...

You know, it is hard to reproduce real color with a camera...

And, no im not an expert but i have almost 2 years of experience... and i read a lot about corns and i look at every photo on the photo gallery and i think my opinion worth something... and a forum is normaly made for helping people and giving opinion...

For your information im a girl and im 21 years old so... i dont want to be bad with everyone, and i respect everyone too, but please dont juge people without knowing!
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1 ? stripped amel
1 ? anery
1 male hypoamelanstic

You mean it's not a candycane hurricane motley het for anery B and A? Wow, am I off! j/k

I always thought "ghost" was because the black was way washed out, like my ghost in this picture (the snake, not the mouse. the mouse ghost haunts other houses...) Then again, that whole anery thing gets confusing to me, I just call all my snakes cool lookin' corns, and let people like Kathy Love that actually know what's going on tell me what they are.

Speaking of knowing stuff, any posts on the above thread about anery would be greatly appreciated...

AJ
King Donut Eater

>>just thought I would throw in a couple of pics of my ghost, Jacob Marley

Jimmy
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heres an ok picture of my ghost(from Love) when she was 6 months old. She is pretty faded and now has a real nice shade of pink with yellow chin. Yours could be a ghost but I am leaning towards anery with how dark some of your black is.

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"whats with you and all those dang reptiles?"

Well not as many as Kathy Love OR Don Soderberg but starting out I always sold them as Anerys until seeing them consistenly over the last couple years they DO turn out to be Ghosts they just have a heavier black edging on the saddles....

When selling them I'd just call them pale Anery's as adults they just don't have the peachy purplish undertones you'll see in a lot of Ghosts.

Just my two cents

Dean

this pic is of my some what similar snake, i asked the same question and people said it is a hypomelanistic anerythristic