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5-17 IRBA Show

SBShortie Jun 13, 2003 05:29 PM

I just thought these lizards were amazing..

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SBShortie Jun 13, 2003 05:29 PM

n/m

Johne Jun 14, 2003 09:32 AM

Crowding cichlids works great for reducing territorial aggression...I don't believe it holds up in collareds. Notice they were not set up to sell to breeders so-to-speak...mostly males in the tank. Catches the eye and makes you want to want one. Just my opinion. I hate to see them all tanked up together like that. I'd rather see a guy pull individual males from individual socks!

John

Brockn Jun 13, 2003 10:58 PM

what a rotten shame that the vendor selling these collareds is keeping multiple adult males in the same enclosure. Quite likely these are wild-caught animals, which are already under a great deal of stress as is. Always sad to see this scenario, particularly at "major" shows such as IRBA events.

Brock

SBShortie Jun 13, 2003 11:15 PM

it is really really sad but at least they weren't fighting....i would buy them all if i could but bam bam and pebbles are already putting quite a strain on me

Brockn Jun 13, 2003 11:48 PM

if you (or anyone else) were to buy any or all of these lizards, it would arguably be doing more harm than good. In the event this vendor was able to find a willing market for the w.c. collareds, you can bet he/she would be right back at it next time around, and perhaps with even more lizards than before. Please folks, I highly encourage you to acquire captive bred animals over wild caught whenever possible...

Brock

SBShortie Jun 14, 2003 02:38 AM

you know...i didnt even think about it like that. and if it makes you feel any better about me...i got my captive bred lizards from paul mcintosh

Johne Jun 14, 2003 09:55 AM

he sells them so dang cheap, and has pretty nice lizards LOL

He must have lots of hatchlings every year.

eve Jun 14, 2003 10:26 AM

LOL You goofy thing, you have gorgeous Collareds that will get great homes ! Eve

Brockn Jun 14, 2003 10:59 PM

You did well, as Paul produces some very attractive collareds. My plea to choose c.b. over w.c. was certainly not meant to be directed at you. :0)

Brock

tgreb Jun 14, 2003 07:00 PM

the wholesalers! They put 100 collareds in a 30 x 40 inch cage and then wonder why they die. It is a shame. Maybe they think they are like african cichlids. If you put a bunch of them into together they won't know who to pick on first and they will be ok. It really is disheartening. I have a freind who is a wholesaler and I don't know how many times I have seen him get in a dozen chuckwallas and stick them in a 50 gallon and say "Man this was a bad batch they all died". Well duh! Sorry for the rant. Tom

Johne Jun 14, 2003 07:56 PM

"I thought I lived in a stressful environment. Pretty funny, you and I came up with the same exact analogy...the cichlid crowding. I use to breed chichlids too.

John Eddington

eve Jun 14, 2003 08:53 PM

Boy, were we all cut from the same mold LOL Eve

Brockn Jun 14, 2003 10:34 PM

and yes, it is certainly something very disturbing to witness.

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