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Has anyone heard of anything like this or think it could be done?

I saw this post on another board. my motto is unless you are experianced dont attempt. I do not know any thing about chamelions (sp?) but i assume they are not from the saem country? Are their habitat needs the same? I suppose you could try but id say no.

Just do a search on mixing.

aj
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Chameleons are solitary animals. It will usually stress them out and eventually cause health problems. I wouldn't suggest it.

Luke

I'd be a little hesitant to mix the two, though the leaf chameleons are not nearly so solitary as other types. A veiled would stand no chance, but leaf chameleons are known to colonize, and can be kept communally. I'd say try it if you have to, but watch the chameleon(s) carefully. If you notice any stress displays (really light colors, or dark colors, or inflated gular sacs), get them apart. I'm a firm believer that chameleons must be in a screen cage, so maintaining humidity might be difficult. Just some food for thought.
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I've never kept mantellas with pigmy leaf chameleons. But i've kept both.

Pigmy leaf chams (ex. r. brevicaudatus) can be kept in colonies. Just make sure that there is plenty of space. Other chams (the green ones) won't do.

Mantellas can also be kept together in colonies.

But it sounds possible to keep pig. chams. with mantellas without problems.

Becuase the Chameleons are not much larger then the frogs and they could both eat the same food and the living conditions for one is great for the other I think that it could work. One problem I see is the frogs being more agressive during eating and possibly not leaving enough food for the chameleons.

i agree. Mantellas are very voracious.

Since pigmy leaf chams are capable of eating medium-large crickets, i've been thinking if maybe the pigmy chams might try to snatch and eat mantellas...heh

I've kept brevicaudatus and have mantellas. I think I may have even kept them together for a short time a few years ago, before I worried about such things.

I would not, however, recommend it, but not for the reasons already mentioned. I don't see competition food or space problems. Nor is it likely that they would bother each other.

The problem is temperature. R. brevis prefer high temperatures, in the 80s at least, while mantellas need much cooler temperatures.

Chris D.

This is something i have been wanting to try too and have been looking for information. I have 3 r. brevs and cant see any problem with them living with mantellas except i just am to worried to try it.

The constant temp i keep the chams at is in the 70s. they can stand night time drops down to 60s unlike other chameleons where they require a basking spot and temps in the 80s.

Also, i havent seen anything really stress them out and when i put food in its usually all gone with in minutes. Snatching up crickets so fast the only way i know they got one is cause i can see a leg sticking out of ones mouth. altough i have wondered if they would try and eat a frog, i just wouldnt get the smallest frog i could find. They chams can only eat food as large as the space between their eyes and mine are only a couple inches long so that space is really small and would only be able to fit hatchling frogs i think.

I have 3 of them in a 20 gallon and if i decide to add any frogs i would need to add a pump to create some flowing water and i probably want to try and seperate their habitat preferences to seperate sides of the cage, that way their ideal spots arent one on top of each other but are able to explore.

I would think it depends on the species involved. You also have to remember there are two genuses of pygmy chameleons. Everyone seems to be focused on Rampholeon, but I personally would try Brookesia. They are from Madagascar, like cooler temps, and from what I heard, can be quite active. I really don't know, as I've not kept them myself. But that's what I've read.
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I THINK ITS A COOL IDEA, IF ITHE LEAF CHAMS ARE Brookeaia WITCH LIVE IN THE SAME HABITATE AS MANTELLAS IN Madagascar, THERE SHOULD BE NO PROBLEMS. THEY BOTH EAT SMALL THINGS LIKE FF AND PINHEAD CRIKETS AND BOTH LIKE IT A LITTLE ON THE COOL SIDE, ALSO THEY BOTH LIKE HIGH HUMIDITY. IF YOU COULD HAVE PLANTS ONLY FROM MADAGASCAR THAT WOULD MAKE IT EVEN BETTER BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT MANY COMMENLY SOLD PLANTS FROM MADAGASCAR, YOU WILL HAVE TO LOOK AROUND BUT YOU COULD END UP WIT A VERY COOL TANK.