Reptile & Amphibian Forums

An email exchange I had today got me thinking. A het offspring must have one parent the actual morph animal. Then you have possible hets, 50%, the offspring from a het to a normal, 66%, the normal looking offspring from a het to a het breeding. Now, what about a Possible het to a normal, what are those offspring called,,,10% possible hets, impossible hets, improbable hets? What about offspring from a possible to a possible with only 3 eggs, all hatch and none are morphs? THEN, what are offspring, normal in appearance, from a Possible morph, like an axanthic or ghost looking animal? In the email exchange, the morph in question looks amazing, and leaves little if any doubt it is a morph, but what if you are not sure, like with my hypo, if I had bred her to a normal male, and got normal looking offspring, what would they be called, possible hets, unproven hets, ????

Any input?

Dave,

pic is of my unproven hypo animal, that laid 10 eggs, bred to my orange ghost male.

Click on the link there are 3 rants on hets and poss hets

Raul
Link

Possible het x normal I would sell as normal.
Possible x possible I would also sell as normal UNLESS the morph hatches then they would be 66% het.
I have a wild green ghost and bred it to a normal and I say it they are unproven het green ghost.
I hope this made it easier for you to understand.
MHO
You already knew about 50% & 66% hets. No need for me to explain that to you again.

here Nemo Nemo!..................here Nemo Nemo!
-----
RicK Denmon

Ball Boutique,Inc.

Yeah, that is the way I see it too.

Dave

We are just what you call "cutting edge breeders".....funny!
Now stay away from all those triple het stuff.

Who killed Nemo?

-----
RicK Denmon

Ball Boutique,Inc.

>>> A het offspring must have one parent the actual morph animal.

No, a het can come from a het. You just won't _know_ it's a het until you breed it. Until then it's just possible.

>>> Now, what about a Possible het to a normal, what are those offspring called

You can call them normals if you want, but the fact is that they're possibles, with half the probability of their parent. In other words a 66% possible bred with a normal gives 33% possible offspring.

>>> What about offspring from a possible to a possible with only 3 eggs, all hatch and none are morphs?

If you keep breeding possibles together and never get any morphs, eventually you come to the common-sense conclusion that at least one of them is not a het. To get any more precise gets into a complicated area of statistics called Baysian inference.

What I was talking about is the egg is laid, the snake hatches, it is an animal from an albino to a normal female, the baby is 100% het albino. An animal from a het to a het breeding is a possible het until proven. But, selling a hatchling offspring from a het to a het breeding, it must be sold as a possible het.

Dave