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California Red-sided Garter Snake

caseylazik Apr 14, 2004 09:43 AM

Another pretty Westerner. Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis.
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caseylazik Apr 14, 2004 09:44 AM

one more
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b1eagar Apr 14, 2004 05:55 PM

Very nice pictures of some beautiful snakes Casey.
I tried looking for those a bit last summer on a short trip to central California to no avail. Maybee next time.

Brian Eagar

JDT Apr 15, 2004 12:21 AM

You're probably looking in the wrong part of the state. Those brightly colored specimens of Infernalis tend to be found along the coast, and only at a particular section at that. I know, cause I've seen them before. All the ones that I've come across will either have a bright red or orange head w/ a blue belly and throat. The dorsal stripe will be either a bright(florescent)yellowish green, or a light powdery blue. Inland specimens tend to be alot duller in coloration with yellowish/tan stripes, throat and bellies. Must be something in the enviroment.

b1eagar Apr 16, 2004 06:22 PM

You may be right. I was looking all along the central california cost from about LA to north of San Fransisco. I thought farther north might be better but we didn't make it any farther north. The biggest problem I ran into was that every likely wetland habitat I cam across had a big fence around it with no trespassing signs. I would see lakes and reservoirs on my travel map only to find them fenced off when I got there.
It was a real bummer. I didn't have much time for herping anyway as it was primarily a family vacation. My wife wouldn't let me stop at the one likely spot I saw without a fence because we needed to find a hotel for the night. I too think their coloration may be due to something in the environment or even the water. Thanks for the info.

>>You're probably looking in the wrong part of the state. Those brightly colored specimens of Infernalis tend to be found along the coast, and only at a particular section at that. I know, cause I've seen them before. All the ones that I've come across will either have a bright red or orange head w/ a blue belly and throat. The dorsal stripe will be either a bright(florescent)yellowish green, or a light powdery blue. Inland specimens tend to be alot duller in coloration with yellowish/tan stripes, throat and bellies. Must be something in the enviroment.

Ji_Woslager Apr 15, 2004 01:31 PM

snakeguy88 Apr 14, 2004 09:23 PM

np
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TomDickinson Apr 14, 2004 11:36 PM

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Apr 15, 2004 09:32 AM

Hi
All these non albinos with stunning colors. I am amazed. I am just keeping a few so far, but will increase if they are for sale here.
Best of luck with them all
Søe
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hbluedevilh Apr 15, 2004 07:47 PM

Np

ssssnakeluvr Apr 15, 2004 11:52 PM

no, it's not, this is a California red sided garter, thamnophis sirtalis infernalis, the endangered one is the San Francisco garter, thamnophis sirtalis tetrataenia.

hbluedevilh Apr 16, 2004 05:26 AM

np

Thamnophile Apr 16, 2004 02:48 AM

np

caseylazik Apr 16, 2004 05:02 PM

Here's another California Red-sided Garter Snake startled from a coiled position.

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