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Does Luecistic breed true?

skmcwilliams Apr 15, 2004 04:01 PM

I have heard confliction reports that if you had a Luecistic mom and dad that even still that the babies really only come out normal. Is this true?

Replies (14)

heartmountain Apr 15, 2004 05:15 PM

Leucistic, Hypomelanistic, whatever you want to call it, if you're talking about the white ones it is a simple recessive trait (it better be for the $$$ I've got wrapped up in them). Meaning that you need 2 recessive genes to make it show. In theory LeucisticxLeucistic=100%Leucistic; LeucisticxAnything Else=100%Het Leucistic; Leucisticx100%Het Leucistic=50%Leucistic and 50% 100%Het Leucistic; and HetxHet=25%Leucistic 50% 100%Het 25%Whatever it was Het for. Does that make any sense? I know that they are not truely leucistic by the definition of the word but that is what they have been coined and probably what I'll call them also when I start producing them later this summer. Hope that helps

Sean
Heart Mountain Herps

skmcwilliams Apr 15, 2004 05:30 PM

Do you have any pics of your Luecistic that you coulp post

lildevils Apr 15, 2004 10:21 PM

The male at the top of this picture is 100% Luecistic. Sorry for the quality but I don't have anymore space to upload a better picture. He has clear fingernails and his coloring changes almost daily. He's fairly young and has some growing to do but he is an awesome animal.

Mike

heartmountain Apr 15, 2004 10:59 PM

100% leucistic or 100% het leucistic. Nothing against your dragon, it's beautiful but my hets are whiter than that. This is flake she's one of my leucistic x snows and shows almost no color, it was my impression that pure leucistics show absolutely no color.

Sean
Heart Mountain Herps

heartmountain Apr 15, 2004 11:02 PM

This is her Dad, a pure leucistic. I don't own him but got the picture from the guy I bought her from. This is what I believe a pure leucistic should look like. Just my opinion, I may be wrong, like I said I haven't bred them yet so I can't say 100%

Sean
Heart Mountain Herps

DuncanGSI Apr 16, 2004 10:50 AM

I dont think this is a leucistic, he doesn't have the clear nail trait, same for the eyes, from what i've read they leucistics must have darkblue or jet black eyes.
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heartmountain Apr 16, 2004 11:09 AM

I know what you mean, unfortunately by deffinition true leucistics don't actually exist in the dragon world. What have been coined leucistic dragons are actually a real good hypomelenistic, I'm not sure why we just don't call them white and end the confusion.

Sean
Heart Mountain Herps

DuncanGSI Apr 16, 2004 10:46 AM

As far as i know true leucistics can't produce colorpigment, this means that your "leucistic" can't be one.
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lildevils Apr 16, 2004 11:23 AM

My mistake that was a pic of my hypo/pastel. I am new to all this picture stuff. Sorry bout that.

Mike

lildevils Apr 16, 2004 11:27 AM

With permission from Vickie Dachiu I have a link to post that has some interesting pictures and information about this topic.

Mike
Link

heartmountain Apr 16, 2004 11:53 AM

Nice link, Explains it well and the pics are nice too.

Sean
Heart Mountain Herps

UroJade Apr 15, 2004 06:58 PM

So does that mean my LeucisticxOrange is 100%het and if she bred with a leucistic she could have around 50% leucistic babies?
or did i read it wrong and she would have a different about?

heartmountain Apr 15, 2004 07:12 PM

From what I understand, yes that would be true. I haven't tested it yet so I can't say 100% that it is a simple recessive trait but that is what I have been told by people I trust. On the pic request, sorry, I only have hets right now. Full leucistics are few and far between and you almost never see them for sale. I expect that some will hit the market this summer and I would guess that they would be from Dragons Den, Jason at beardeddragons.biz, I may sell a couple after I start producing them, and maybe a couple others but I doubt there will be too many out there.

Sean
Heart Mountain Herps

kameron Apr 16, 2004 09:51 PM

Hopefully I will have some leucistics as well later this season. I have a huge het male just waiting for his het girls to gain those last few grams to be breeding size.

Kameron
Fat, Flat Lizard Ranch

>> Full leucistics are few and far between and you almost never see them for sale. I expect that some will hit the market this summer and I would guess that they would be from Dragons Den, Jason at beardeddragons.biz, I may sell a couple after I start producing them, and maybe a couple others but I doubt there will be too many out there.
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>>Sean
>>Heart Mountain Herps
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