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I am only breeding Hypos to other spectacular animals. That goes for both males and females. I am not making any attempt so far at breeding Hypo to Hypo. I have too many other combinations that are just too tempting. Hypo X Pastel or other spectacular Colombians are what I am working on and will continue to do. This baby is one of those babies.

A "Monster Tail" bloodline Hypo after her second shed. Is she acceptable?
The Boaphile's Spot.

I agree too! I'm not interested as much in F3,F4,etc...(now that I have a better handle on the Harlequin genetics,I WILL make F2's though,primarily to compound the "H" gene in a "super salmon" Once we get to F2 with these,I really don't see the need to take any risks inbreeding further,everything will be outcrossed to maximize color,and,keep the Harlequin genetics strong for the future.(this is an "F1" that has yet to shed for his second time.)I think your "Monster Tail" animals are simply outstanding!!! and,the results are superlative! congrats!!!!

I think the direction you both are going is improving hypo much more than F3's and F4's. You animals are amazing!!!!! Keep up the good work guys!!! I can't wait to see what Rich Ihle will have this year as well.
You are all taking this hobby to the next level for sure.
John
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"To be the best..........You must lose your mind."

Thanks for the compliments John! I'm very pleased with the results this year,I truely think that there are alot of people that really don't understand the filial generation concept to begin with(hell I still have trouble trying to figure out correct connotations for various backcross combinations!)and,should just stick with saying they are the result of "hypo X hypo",or,"salmon X salmon",and,therefore,"possible dominant"....Rich will no doubt,produce some more fine examples of the trait...perhaps some will have blue flames that shoot from the vent when you approach them,or,simply burst into flames after the first initial shed?(mandatory eye protection,not included) *LOL*

Yeah it is pretty amazing what you can produce by bringing in new (and more attractive blood). IMO if you just keep line breeding for F3, F4 ... and so on, you have a limit as to how far you can take the hypos since your gene pool is relatively small and therefore limited. Outbreeding to other exceptional lines really enhances the colors and patterns. Some of the crosses with the Pastel Dreams have got to be incredible. In my own line, crossing the hypo to a "normal boa" (hypos and normals are all that I have, though I may have to rectify that. lol) with an exceptionally light background and clean pattern really helped clean up the snakes' patterns. Some of the F1s (codominants) from this cross were more attractive IMO than the babies I got from a hypo x hypo (same father). Here are some pics of an F1 hypo and my version of the monster tail.

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Rick Staub
R&R Reptiles

Was that from an Ihle line salmon Rick? what amazes me is when you breed two very clean salmons like the ones you showed,the resulting effect seems to be that the salmon/hypo gene appears to then begin to further "erase" the (already reduced)pattern! some of the animals you posted recently really showed an extreme reduction,I think those were from salmon to salmon breeding,correct?

My stock originated from an orange-tail hypo. No Ihle stock in them as far as I know. Yes the ones I posted previously with the reduced patterns were from a hypo to hypo cross. I've seen the same thing where the pattern starts to decrease. There has to be a lot more going on with these hypos genetically than just a single gene. Somehow the pattern is tied to it. What is interesting is that the one with the huge tail and side pattern came from the same litter.

>>Was that from an Ihle line salmon Rick? what amazes me is when you breed two very clean salmons like the ones you showed,the resulting effect seems to be that the salmon/hypo gene appears to then begin to further "erase" the (already reduced)pattern! some of the animals you posted recently really showed an extreme reduction,I think those were from salmon to salmon breeding,correct?
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Rick Staub
R&R Reptiles

I just wondered because they looked very similar to the ones I produced from an Ihle co-dom salmon,bred to one of my F2 Harlequin females,(this is one of the babies) Our Orange-tail line animals look very different from the "classic" Salmons.

This is the male that started our O.T. line,he has a very different look. combined with the Harlequin influence,the results have been really awesome!