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and Don...I never remembered the word "resorbtion"....we always said absorb or reabsorb too..so thanx........
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as per David Barker.........he taught me alot last year.....

follicles...form in ovaries.....they may be resorbed.......

once ovulation occurs..they drop from the ovaries into the oviducts.......and there they fertilize.......then line up....and afterwards form shells.......

once they leave the ovary...they cannot be resorbed......they have to come out through the vent/ be layed.......

.......follicles in the ovaries are big he says...as big as they will get almost.......I used to think they dropped as pinhead sized or even single cells......Dave says.....no..they are pretty big(ball eggs)......and that is why people can feel them at ovulation time.......

so.......

if it ovulated....it should lay........

if it just got fat....it may not have actually created follicles...it may have and resorbed....and it may just be fat......(always the possibility it was sick/full of bacteria.....but you would know that...it would still be sick....

....all info from my brain..as I remember it...if anything is wrong..Dave was correct and I remember it wrong....LOL.......
I think this is all as he told me (via emails...long emails.......)....Dave is so smart....he is probably THE smartest herper I ever met actually...(sorry all you other guys...you know almost all.....but Dave takes it to another level...)....

.........Thanx....JYohe

this is the quicky version.........

Ovaries produce follicles

Sometimes those are "RESORBED" or otherwise would not require laying.

The Follicles themselves are quite large in size and would be/could be felt and thought to be eggs themselves.

Once they leave the ovaries, they only have one way of exiting... through the vent. Until they leave the ovaries they may or may not result in eggs or slugs. Once they leave they DO result in either eggs or slugs.
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~Sasheena

except the follicles don't necessarily have to be large to drop out of the ovaries. Otherwise, you have a clear understanding of the process.
South Mountain Reptiles

don't have to be large???.........
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what's your 2 cents on size.....let's say in corns.......

we discussed mainly ball pythons....yet we never really listed a specie in our emails.......

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...........balls get really big at ovulation.....like they swell to huge proportions.......makes me wonder how at times......and usually 2 months later than you think they will/ did.....

as for timings....I have corns building up for the second clutches....and others that have been breeding for over a month and a half or more.......2 even...and show no signs yet of the first ovulation.......

I hate snakes..........

really....LOL

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Ruby was HUGE! I don't know if anyone remembers the pics, but other people also said she looked gravid. So here's the "corrected version" of what I ass-u-me happened

When I introduced her and Breaden, he was too young, and it was too early in the season for her. Then after letting them shack up for a while, and catching them dancing and sleeping together for a week, I figured he had done the deed and seperated them. I saw NO sperm plug, after-goo, or make-out bugars. But she did grow, and grow, and grow. So apparently having a male around kicked ovulation into high gear. However, he never impregnated her, and so, the folicles, while huge, never left the ovaries, and she RESORBED them.

Thanks to everyone for their input here, I think I fully understand it now. Hopefully we all do! LOL

Hey Jimmy, here's that female you have with the cool pattern

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Dianne
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>>Hey Jimmy, here's that female you have with the cool pattern
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Hey Dianne,
I think she and the "unknown" sibling are about to shed so as soon as they do, I will get some updated pics.
Jimmy
Here is thier brother Balder

cool I always like seeing the way they change from hatching to a year, and they'll be a year old next month already!!

(And of course she was special because of her "cool" pattern )
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Dianne
AKA IcedGoddess
1.2 Cornsnakes
1.3 Cats
1.0 Pionus parrot
0.1 Child
IcedGoddess Creations
Castle Serpents