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Panther Color Morphs: As Confusing at Bearded Dragon Color Morphs?

brugaugler Apr 18, 2004 02:18 PM

I would like to get some feedback on the following. When I parouse the chameleon classifieds, I see all kinds of panther chameleon color morphs: Abanja, Nosy Be, Tamatave, and the ever expensive Ambilobe. First of all, it is my understanding that all panthers can breed with each other. That given the the fact that the females are all relatively identical leads me to belive that there are plenty of CROSSES out there that are billed as being a "pure" color morph. The same is true with dragons. With dragons, an animal is what it looks like regardless of how it is billed. So, if I were to get a smashing Ambilobe and bred it to a Nosy Be Female wouldn't the offspring be expected to also be attracvive? Any comments on this would be appreciated. Thanks. -Larry

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JamieWhitehouse Apr 18, 2004 02:24 PM

In Panther chameleons, It isn't a colour morph, It is a locality. Nosy Be and Ambanja are just the place in which the Chameleon Generates from. But with Bearded dragons, they have been bred that way and will not fine them in the wild.

>>I would like to get some feedback on the following. When I parouse the chameleon classifieds, I see all kinds of panther chameleon color morphs: Abanja, Nosy Be, Tamatave, and the ever expensive Ambilobe. First of all, it is my understanding that all panthers can breed with each other. That given the the fact that the females are all relatively identical leads me to belive that there are plenty of CROSSES out there that are billed as being a "pure" color morph. The same is true with dragons. With dragons, an animal is what it looks like regardless of how it is billed. So, if I were to get a smashing Ambilobe and bred it to a Nosy Be Female wouldn't the offspring be expected to also be attracvive? Any comments on this would be appreciated. Thanks. -Larry
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rkreptiles Apr 18, 2004 05:40 PM

Panthers are Localities and not "Morphs". While some Locales may be able to sucessfully mix in breeding there have been a number of studies done and not all of them will be able to breed together and produce viable offspring. There is a lot of discussions that some locales should be re-classified as a separate sub=species rather than just a different locale.
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Rob Trenor
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screameleons Apr 19, 2004 08:08 AM

In addition to what Rob said, there are some other issues that you may need to be concerned with. There was a case where a male Nose be was bred to another locale. The male sired several cluthes, all of which were not viable. But then again, there are breeder that have produced very nice crosses.

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