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Not my photo, but I'm very curious to find out what the two snakes in the photo are. The sender of the photo says they were sold as bulls, and the top one looks like a bull, but the lower one appears to be a gopher or pine.
Sorry for the large graphic, I tried to resize it.
Any ideas?
-cat
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My collection and herp photography
Hi -cat,
here are my suggestions...
The snake above looks like a (beautiful) sayi to me. The patterns are similar to affinis, but the rostal-scale is much higher than wide - so it is a bullsnake, a sayi. More details are at Klauber 1946, but this would be a little complicate to read 
The snake below would be a great basin gopher snake, because of it's connect patterns in the neck and on the side of the neck.
Bernd from Germany
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>>Hi -cat,
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>>here are my suggestions...
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>>The snake above looks like a (beautiful) sayi to me. The patterns are similar to affinis, but the rostal-scale is much higher than wide - so it is a bullsnake, a sayi. More details are at Klauber 1946, but this would be a little complicate to read
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>>The snake below would be a great basin gopher snake, because of it's connect patterns in the neck and on the side of the neck.
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>>Bernd from Germany
>>Link
Thanks! From looking at photos, I was pretty sure the upper was a bull (a very light colored bull, at that!) but was not sure on the lower one.
-Cat
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My collection and herp photography
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