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Wild Garter Snake

JudyQ Apr 21, 2004 10:54 AM

My son caught a 36" garter snake which has been living in an aqaurium in the living room for two weeks now. From my reach I am fairly confident that it is female. She eats well and I have done SO much research that I am sure we could keep her healthy.

My problem is this...... should we let her go back to where we found her? We live in a fairly populated area with many lakes and ponds around. Is it wrong for us to keep her? I feel as if she has lived this long and I hate to take her out of the gene pool. She is obviously strong and healthy.

Would we be better to get a captive breed snake? She does seem very gentle but quite skiddish which is understandable.

I would just like some opinions. To keep her or not to keep her.... that is the question.

Thanks,
JudyQ

Replies (8)

hbluedevilh Apr 21, 2004 02:09 PM

I personnally have no problem with keeping garter snakes as they are very common, unless they are threatened or endangered. One thing you should do though is if she has babies to release them where you found mom.

One other thing you might want to consider before keeping her for too long and its too late to release her. Garter snakes go into hibernation all of the winter. There is no doubt in my mind that she has been alive for a few years and has hibernated. This is a natural cycle to garter snakes and once it has kicked in one year it will continue every year. A garter snake her age will stop feeding as winter approaches. With the onset of wanting to hibernate you will have to be able to set up hibernation quarters for her so that she can hibernate through the winter months. If not she can die as she may not want to eat any longer. Hibernation is a big step that collectors tend to forget about these northern species. Once they have gone through it, they will usually want to continue the cycle every year. It not only keeps them healthy but it also makes way for the new breeding season.

Decide if you can set something up for the winter months for her. Here is a simple layout:

A plastic bin with a tight fitting lid. Holes in it for ventilation of course

Leaf litter

A Basement or place that will get to about 45-55 degrees and remain that temp all winter. and then rise slowly to normal temps. An Ideal place is a shed or unheated basement. Nights that reach into the low 30s doesnt seem to hurt them as long as they dont remain that low for too long.

You must be able to keep a fresh water source with the snake and be sure it cannot be knocked over.

Regular check ups every week to see how she is doing.

ALSO and one of the most important! : Prior to the onset of hibernation....no feeding two weeks before she goes into hibernation. She must be clean from the inside. If she goes into hibernation before all waste is clear she can die.

Hope this helps a bit,

Lu

JudyQ Apr 21, 2004 02:33 PM

I was hoping for one soon.

We live in Wisconsin so I realized that the snakes must hybernate but did not know if they had to continue doing so once in captivity. Thank you for that info. I guess I have more learning to do.

I do know that we have no intentions to breed snakes. I had read that breeding season here was April and May. Since she wasn't catch until April 9th I will be curious to see if she is pregnant. I'm not sure we would want to deal with that

Thank you again for your input. I appreciate it.
Sincerely,
Judy

hbluedevilh Apr 21, 2004 03:05 PM

No problem....If she wasn't captured hibernating, chances are she is already gravid and will give birth sometime in the summer. Garters will mate upon emereging from their hibernation location. So chances are she is a gravid female. just be prepared for babies wether or not she does give birth.

Lu

JudyQ Apr 21, 2004 03:11 PM

This may be more than I bargained for but could be interesting if I decide to keep her. Do we have to do special things to keep a mother to be? Is there a web site you could recommend with more info? I am sorry to be a pest but if I am going to keep her I want to do right by her.

hbluedevilh Apr 21, 2004 03:16 PM

Nothing really special. I would feed her really good...not just feeder fish now...if you can get her to eat scented pinkie mice you can do that or you can have the kids run aobut outside looking for toads to feed her.

Also giving her a warm spot during the day at about 85-90 degrees will help her keep the babies developing inside her warm.

Lu

snakeguy88 Apr 24, 2004 01:18 AM

Do not release the babies. It may even be illegal to do so. Captive babies should remain captive, and most states have laws to try and ensure they do.
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rhallman Apr 24, 2004 12:56 AM

Hello. If you want to keep your snake and it is legal as well as common in the area you obtained it, then there really isn't a problem as long as you can meet its basic needs. I respectfully disagree with the hibernation issue. I have seen many adult garters feed through the winter. It may go off feed for a while however. I have an adult Coastal Garter that went several months this winter without feeding and showed no weight loss. If you do decide to keep it I would recommend converting it to a rodent diet. This is easier to deal with and more nutritious for a captive Garter. Garters are known to suffer a thiamin deficiency when fed certain fish diets. This is due to an enzyme in certain fish including gold fish. Anyway, Garters make good captives and are easy to care for relatively speaking. As with all snakes the most important thing is to keep the lid on tight.

Randy Hallman

WingedWolfPsion Apr 24, 2004 05:40 AM

If she's gravid, it's important to keep your temperatures right, and provide good, secure hiding places. She'll need peace and quiet, solitude, and no handling, or there's a high risk of stillbirths.
The newborns can eat leaf worms (the smaller earthworms found in bait stores), often even before their first shed, in my experience.
If you don't want to deal with babies, go ahead and let her go...a captive bred snake will already be used to living in a cage, won't need to be hibernated, and will be free of parasites (which your wild caught snake doubtless has in abundance, she'd need to be wormed as soon as she dropped her litter).
There's no real price difference...a cb snake costs as much as a vet's treatment for worms.

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